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Just Flight PA28R Arrow III released

Took the Arrow around the patch this morning, with the update SP1 installed. I pleasantly report that any issues I had experienced before are now resolved, including some items that weren't aforementioned.

With the corrections, it really is a gem now. I'll offer some review from where I sit.

Visually this airplane is breathtaking. The modelling and textures are quite convincing. It does not disappoint, and is probably the Justflight teams best effort to date. The paintkit is friendly, and while I haven't really any need to explore a repaint at the moment, it looks like it would do sufficiently. There's lots of wear and tear, the airplane looks so dog-gone realistic. Fabulous.

Audio is crisp, and very clear. There were a few items that I didn't like in the initial release, but these have been corrected. The propeller really bites through the air, and there's a good presence of 3d sound cone. +1

Flight Dynamics are really where this airplane shines. I do have just a handful of PA-28 hours in a fixed gear, and I found the Arrow from Justflight more than justified in it's representation. There's a good heavy feeling, and the airplane is most certainly not on rails. It feels good. Really good. I was a bit worried at first, as the elevator trim had some problems. These were handsomely corrected with the SP1 so no worries now. I managed some cross country and VOR-VOR flights, and I really feel like the flight envelope is accurately represented. It's good to see a developer put some real effort into propeller physics, engine management, and overall sense of immersion. Way to go!

Depth, Justflight has opened up some new features. I'm really not super keen on the interface, at least not yet. However having the panel state saved for the next load is genius. I also feel like there's room to expand. My only criticism is that it's a little clunky navigating through these features. However mostly a matter of preference, I presume. It's not just a jump in and fly airplane, which is great. It's also not so overwhelmed with damage mods to the point that it's burdensome. So there's a balance. I feel like they achieved the balance, but in my taste it's just a little awkward.

I think this product really deserves to be noticed. It's a 5-star level of quality for today's market, for sure. The price seems heavy at first, but after purchase, I can understand why. It's a fantastic contribution to my hangar. I look forward to more cross country and maybe some night flying.

I hope some others who may have been on the fence will treat themselves this weekend. It's be glad you did.

Now back to my project...
- Joseph
 
fsxar177 said:
Took the Arrow around the patch this morning, with the update SP1 installed. I pleasantly report that any issues I had experienced before are now resolved, including some items that weren't aforementioned.

With the corrections, it really is a gem now. I'll offer some review from where I sit.

Visually this airplane is breathtaking. The modelling and textures are quite convincing. It does not disappoint, and is probably the Justflight teams best effort to date. The paintkit is friendly, and while I haven't really any need to explore a repaint at the moment, it looks like it would do sufficiently. There's lots of wear and tear, the airplane looks so dog-gone realistic. Fabulous.

Audio is crisp, and very clear. There were a few items that I didn't like in the initial release, but these have been corrected. The propeller really bites through the air, and there's a good presence of 3d sound cone. +1

Flight Dynamics are really where this airplane shines. I do have just a handful of PA-28 hours in a fixed gear, and I found the Arrow from Justflight more than justified in it's representation. There's a good heavy feeling, and the airplane is most certainly not on rails. It feels good. Really good. I was a bit worried at first, as the elevator trim had some problems. These were handsomely corrected with the SP1 so no worries now. I managed some cross country and VOR-VOR flights, and I really feel like the flight envelope is accurately represented. It's good to see a developer put some real effort into propeller physics, engine management, and overall sense of immersion. Way to go!

Depth, Justflight has opened up some new features. I'm really not super keen on the interface, at least not yet. However having the panel state saved for the next load is genius. I also feel like there's room to expand. My only criticism is that it's a little clunky navigating through these features. However mostly a matter of preference, I presume. It's not just a jump in and fly airplane, which is great. It's also not so overwhelmed with damage mods to the point that it's burdensome. So there's a balance. I feel like they achieved the balance, but in my taste it's just a little awkward.

I think this product really deserves to be noticed. It's a 5-star level of quality for today's market, for sure. The price seems heavy at first, but after purchase, I can understand why. It's a fantastic contribution to my hangar. I look forward to more cross country and maybe some night flying.

I hope some others who may have been on the fence will treat themselves this weekend. It's be glad you did.

Now back to my project...
- Joseph
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Great review Joseph, but there's just one thing that I think you've missed out, it's that the aircraft just "feels" right!


Ian
 
Have got to agree with Joseph and Ian - very nice after the SP. Not sure about the 'expensive' reference, as I think for what you get its remarkable compared to say, A2A (but those are 'premium' simulation products and I think you get your money's worth there too). The integration options for avionics are almost worth the asking price alone. And if you still think its too much - compare to Carenado/Alabeo...

Bloody good job JustFlight. How about a twin next time?

Nick
 
Lovely Plane she is
However with the SP1 as I pull back on thoddle to a MP of 22 the RPM drops with the lowering of the MP to below 2400 without touching RPM lever...
Thats not right is it?
 
doublecool said:
Lovely Plane she is
However with the SP1 as I pull back on thoddle to a MP of 22 the RPM drops with the lowering of the MP to below 2400 without touching RPM lever...
Thats not right is it?
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I don't recall making any changes to the engine that would affect that but I will go back and double-check.
 
Not in the 14 hours between your posts - I'm working night shifts in the real world (through the weekend as well :miserable:) so haven't been able to get to the files for long enough to look into this yet. It will get sorted and hopefully very soon.
 
Following several requests, I can announce that we are developing another variant of the PA28 Arrow - the PA-28RT-201T Turbo Arrow IV. More details will follow shortly :encouragement:
 
That would be great Martyn! That is the T-tail right? What about the low tail version?

Meanwhile I'm working on this repaint, Cretan Eagle flight school:

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Paul, thanks for the link. For some unknown reason the problem has disappeared!

I have just uploaded this repaint to the library, and soon at Avsim. A clean, shiny plane with a nice tail art, great for touring the Greek islands. The hieroglyphs are the Phestos disc, a bronze age clay scripture, not deciphered yet since its discovery in Crete in 1908. It is operated by the "Cretan Eagle" flight school in Iraklio, Crete.







 
delta558 said:
Not in the 14 hours between your posts - I'm working night shifts in the real world (through the weekend as well :miserable:) so haven't been able to get to the files for long enough to look into this yet. It will get sorted and hopefully very soon.
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delta, Most here including myself would take your response as somewhat sarcastic...when really not needed.
First, it was Saturday (my day off) and the question was not toward you, but to the community and seeing if anyone else had the same issue with the rpm's before making a ticket at justflight, but you chimed in, and per your first post it seemed like you were part of the team that released the aircraft and you were on line and you were just gonna go checking into it. I thought Cool.

but you didn't, you chose a different path. Please, the next time you feel like typing clever remarks to make yourself feel better and attempting to make others feel bad, Please, don't. Alot of people work hard, nights, days, and both, including myself... We work hard so we can take care of our families and enjoy a hobby when we finally do have a day off.

I spent my money with justflight on a product I am overall happy with and was polite in asking my question to the OH community. I am not thin skined I just don't deserve to be on the end your sarcastic typing wit, because honestly, it not worth the price of your plane.

OK then, were you able to find the problem with the rpm's.
 
doublecool said:
delta, Most here including myself would take your response as somewhat sarcastic...when really not needed.
First, it was Saturday (my day off) and the question was not toward you, but to the community and seeing if anyone else had the same issue with the rpm's before making a ticket at justflight, but you chimed in, and per your first post it seemed like you were part of the team that released the aircraft and you were on line and you were just gonna go checking into it. I thought Cool.

but you didn't, you chose a different path. Please, the next time you feel like typing clever remarks to make yourself feel better and attempting to make others feel bad, Please, don't. Alot of people work hard, nights, days, and both, including myself... We work hard so we can take care of our families and enjoy a hobby when we finally do have a day off.

I spent my money with justflight on a product I am overall happy with and was polite in asking my question to the OH community. I am not thin skined I just don't deserve to be on the end your sarcastic typing wit, because honestly, it not worth the price of your plane.

OK then, were you able to find the problem with the rpm's.
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Like what you said. It's so easy to be a smart ass - been one for too long myself. In the rush to get the product to market, beta testing doesn't seem overly effective, was it ever, but we all have to show some restraint - pithy remarks are a dime a dozen and we each have a library of them.
 
Absolutely not intended to be sarcastic, but again the written word often fails to pass across its exact meaning. You asked me a question, doublecool, quoting me and asking if there was any word yet. I was simply stating fact that I was in work for most of that time and therefore had not had any chance to get to the files. I wrote it when I was half asleep after a long shift (again, nothing to take from that about anybody else's work, just again statement of fact about my circumstances at the time).

My initial comment to your first post was also necessarily short and to the point as you posted not long before I left the house, it was an acknowledgement that the engine shouldn't be behaving like that and that your point was correct. Yes, as you point out I am part of the team that worked on this but I do it in my spare time. I did not intend for you to take from that that i would be working on it immediately, just that your point had been noted and would be checked. Sometimes I have the time to get stuck in on the forums and try to help out, other times my job leaves me exhausted and this has just been one of those weeks.

Anyway, the problem has been found, fixed (along with along few other minor tweaks) and hopefully should see the light of day fairly soon.
Paul.
 
We're currently looking for people with experience on the PA-28R Arrow III Turbo or Arrow IV Turbo. Please PM me if you've got that experience and would like to help us.

Thanks
Martyn
 
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Martyn said:
We're currently looking for people with experience on the PA-28R Arrow III Turbo or Arrow IV Turbo. Please PM me if you've got that experience and would like to help us.

Thanks
Martyn
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I wish!
Seriously though, I don't, and I don't know anyone who does. I do hope you find someone. If the quality is as good as this one you'll have another winner.
 
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