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SIM UPDATE 16

I wondered if anyone on here is using the SU16 Beta - I have read a lot of negative comments on regression of scenery quality etc.

I'd be very interested to hear of any first hand reactions to the upgrade.
 
Having taken part once, I now avoid MSFS Betas like the plague. It's ready when it's ready, as far as I'm concerned. In a similar vein, I have so much that needs doing on MSFS2024, along with new/updated aircraft to install - but I'm not touching it until SU 3 is released and proven.
 
Paul K said:
Having taken part once, I now avoid MSFS Betas like the plague. It's ready when it's ready, as far as I'm concerned. In a similar vein, I have so much that needs doing on MSFS2024, along with new/updated aircraft to install - but I'm not touching it until SU 3 is released and proven.
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I'm fearful too but was really after hearing some first-hand feedback from folks on here that are running the current version of the 16 Beta. Unfortunately when MS/ASOBO say "it's ready" it still might not be and at that point we will have no choice but to suck it up
 
collensr said:
I'm fearful too but was really after hearing some first-hand feedback from folks on here that are running the current version of the 16 Beta. Unfortunately when MS/ASOBO say "it's ready" it still might not be and at that point we will have no choice but to suck it up
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Maybe because Asobo/M$ are using us as beta testers? It's an IT business model. All software firms do it. M$ just led the way.

Priller
 
Priller said:
Maybe because Asobo/M$ are using us as beta testers? It's an IT business model. All software firms do it. M$ just led the way.

Priller
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Speaking only of flight sims, I reckon it's because of all the hardware permutations that exist worldwide. They can only do in-house beta testing on a certain number of configurations, and then deal with problems on a case-by-case basis after release.

Having said that, I don't think MSFS2024 had much beta testing at all, in-house or otherwise! :ROFLMAO: Anyway, things are improving, slowly.
 
Paul K said:
Speaking only of flight sims, I reckon it's because of all the hardware permutations that exist worldwide. They can only do in-house beta testing on a certain number of configurations, and then deal with problems on a case-by-case basis after release.

Having said that, I don't think MSFS2024 had much beta testing at all, in-house or otherwise! :ROFLMAO: Anyway, things are improving, slowly.
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I get what you're saying, but I don't agree. As a mid-level IT manager for a European Institution, I have to talk to M$. Privately they admit that using end users as beta testers is a business model. Alpha testing is something they do themselves, beta is thrown upon the the users. Again, it's a business model and it is disgusting. Beta testers are not supposed to pay for faulty software. It's called savage capitalism. Thank Reagan and Thatcher.

I know that this is politics. I don't care. It's also fact.

Jan
 
Priller said:
I get what you're saying, but I don't agree. As a mid-level IT manager for a European Institution, I have to talk to M$. Privately they admit that using end users as beta testers is a business model. Alpha testing is something they do themselves, beta is thrown upon the the users. Again, it's a business model and it is disgusting. Beta testers are not supposed to pay for faulty software. It's called savage capitalism. Thank Reagan and Thatcher.

I know that this is politics. I don't care. It's also fact.

Jan
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Points taken. And politics are fine by me ;)
 
According to the Official forum, the hanging on shutdown is fixed. Any confirmation here?

(Not that it matters... The update is mandatory and it's gonna do what it's gonna do.)
 
Bomber_12th said:
For those that swear by using the latest/greatest DLSS version, as I do - just a quick reminder that, once the SU16 update is installed, it rolls back the DLSS in MSFS to quite an older version, so you will need to use DLSS Swapper to update it again.
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Yes, thanks for the reminder. I would have forgotten and blamed SU16 for my poorer visuals.
 
Tom/Jan - side question but related - now that we have SU16 would it be worth asking folk to share their graphics settings - we've not done that in a while.
 
So far the one thing I have noticed with the update is that my frame rates are much better? Flying over Las Vegas - last night I had my usual stutters as I took off south towards The Strip from Nellis. Tonight no stutters at all (so far!).
 
According to the release notes, there are performance improvements on Xbox, but none listed for PC. :cry:

Stability & Performance​

  • Fixed a crash when attempting to reach some areas in the World (e.g. Pecs TV Tower)
  • Improved memory management on Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X to improve stability
 
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