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Hunkered down, here in Pensacola

in a month or two, the virus will disappear. It don't like heat, or warm moisture, so hang on.
Napamule
Well, it's still Fall here, temps are still around 85-95 at our place with up to 50% humidity (it's normally around 5-10%), and the virus is increasing exponentially, so.........
We live 90km NE of Perth on 10 acres - can see 4 houses from our place, which is 4 too many, but, what the hell - they keep to themselves, I'd be quite happy to stay at home, but keeping some income coming in is as important, so it's in to town 3-4 days a week to the office. Working from home is OK if the internet plays ball - looks like we'll be doing that soon anyway, but still need to check in to the office - the nature of the work sometimes. It's a big office, with only 7 of us and, if I come in by not using any public transport (trains) I can travel home to office and back, without interacting with any other people.....The missus and I are both over 70 and both still work. She's been told she'll be working from home on Thursday - if not before. Good. Social distancing is the only thing that will give the medics time to get on top of it, or we'll go down Italy's path. To all those who say the Flu kills lots of people - yes it does, but it spreads it out, culling off the weak and infirm, but doesn't overwhelm the ICUs. There are fit 30 and 40 year olds dying from this thing at the moment - basically, shutting down is buying time for the medics.
Wombat666 said:
One very important issue has been raised in Oz, a return to domestic manufacturing and far less reliance on cheaper imports is one of a few positives to come out of COVID-19.
It's absolutely insane to all, except the big multi nationals, to destroy the local manufacturing base of a country. Australia, like the US, has been totally hollowed out over the last few decades - it's not just the main industry, it's all the feeder manufacturers and all the skills they have that are eventually lost.
 
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And as a real-time update, here in Vancouver, BC, regular gasoline is hitting a buck-a-liter in the evenings (unseen in decades), city bus rides are free, but you come and go from the back door and leave the driver alone, and Costco is refusing to refund returns on mass-hoarded toilet paper.
:running:

Quite impressed by the stance taken along similar lines here: No returns or refunds on Date Rolls, Baked Beans, Rice, Flour, all manner of canned goods etc., covering retail outlets such as Coles, Woolworths, Ritchies, Aldi. Costco and all the other retailers who have had it with the hoarders. mmmmm

Only $1:50 for petrol?
It has long been the norm in Oz and the 'Pacific Peso' currently buys US$00:55+/- loose change.

We have a few hundred litres of AvGas stored plus a similar amount of unleaded 91, in secure underground tanks I hasten to add.
The AvGas is used for the performance cars and super-bikes, the 91 was an afterthought.
Quite pleasant if one needs to drive somewhere essential, as the bulk of the Dickheads are finding it expensive and difficult to fill their stupid Crew Cab trucks and oversized SUV s........my current 911 is happy on 91 plus a mild additive, ecstatic if filled with AvGas and quite frugal if driven sensibly!

Reality will strike home when 'Fuel Rationing' becomes the next mandated move.

Should be a lot of Rangers, RAMs, Coloradeos and the like going cheap quite soon.

:triumphant:
 
Only $1:50 for petrol?
It has long been the norm in Oz and the 'Pacific Peso' currently buys US$00:55+/- loose change.
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Should be a lot of Rangers, RAMs, Colorados and the like going cheap quite soon.
:triumphant:
I'm under the impression that the West Coast of Canada features the highest petrol prices in North America. About 40-45% is tax levied by municipal & provincial governments. Until late, it's been ranging about $1.48-$1.68 for 87 octane (regular) per litre. These days it's averaging about $1.07 - $1.08, and then on Wed/Thurs evening all the gas stations in Vancouver drop their prices just before the tanker trucks arrive from the refineries. That's were the price drops below a buck a litre between 7:00 & 11:00 pm. (Strange.)
This is all in Metro-Vancouver. Once you move beyond that, the prices drop the further out you go.

Still cheap gas by many standards around the planet. However, most Canucks will (resentfully) tell you how much cheaper the fuel is across the border in the USA, and in fact, there's lies the great tradition of those living near the border crossing south just to fill up their vehicles on a weekly basis.

Discussing the future extinction of large gasoline powered cars, I wonder if the trend will be led first by the growing popularity of electric powered vehicles? While the marketing of those machines is still distinctly "soft-edged", I suspect in another decade they will be pushing "go-electric" much harder, while gasoline power begins to offer fewer options. (And of course, some governments are actually beginning to legislate such future limitations.)

As the civilian automotive fuel market diminishes, pump gas availability will too follow that trend.

Then, watch our home hydro bill begin to skyrocket. ( Invest in solar panel tech, now, while it's early!!)

So, wombat666, if you have underground fuel storage, you must be in the rurals? I wonder about shelf life. I'm not an engineer, but I understand that automotive petrol and Avgas feature a cocktail of modifying element that tend to evaporate or breakdown quickly. Do you get through the stuff quickly enough to avoid the problem, or is it simply not an issue?
 
My neighbors all stay in contact with each other, and we all own firearms. Today, I inventoried my ammunition. Crime in Pensacola (as in many cities) is expected to increase; leastwise in the short term. I checked with my neighbors, making sure they had enough ammunition as well. Hopefully this situation will get better soon, but for now, I (we) are being extra vigilant. NC
 
Discussing the future extinction of large gasoline powered cars, I wonder if the trend will be led first by the growing popularity of electric powered vehicles? While the marketing of those machines is still distinctly "soft-edged", I suspect in another decade they will be pushing "go-electric" much harder, while gasoline power begins to offer fewer options. (And of course, some governments are actually beginning to legislate such future limitations.) As the civilian automotive fuel market diminishes, pump gas availability will too follow that trend. Then, watch our home hydro bill begin to skyrocket. ( Invest in solar panel tech, now, while it's early!!) So, wombat666, if you have underground fuel storage, you must be in the rurals? I wonder about shelf life. I'm not an engineer, but I understand that automotive petrol and Avgas feature a cocktail of modifying element that tend to evaporate or breakdown quickly. Do you get through the stuff quickly enough to avoid the problem, or is it simply not an issue?

We live right at the Southern tip of Australia (almost!) overlooking the Southern Ocean on 9+60 Hectares, a former Dairy Farm now adapted as our home and our 'Big Boys Toys' operation.

Fuel does get used regularly enough to not have any worry about it going off, and there were a couple of existing storage tanks already here when we moved in.
I guess our nearest neighbor is a few Ks from us, and our area is more or less 'Rural', despite the fact that the Mornington Peninsula is a very popular tourist destination, nothing that bothers us as it is a K or so from the passing road to our house.
Interesting you mention 'power', early last year we bought into a Community scheme for our own Solar Turbine (as in the Flinders Shire area) which came on line in December.
We do have solar and a decent battery farm on site, so we don't pay the normal energy suppliers, our only expenses are a minimal quarterly maintenance payment for the turbine.
Nothing to do with the current situation but I've been looking at Tesla's for some time, more as a daily driver but one that is a quick as well.
I'm going to grow old(er) disgracefully!
:devilish:
PS: Ammunition! We don't have any need of that sort of thing. This is not 'The Walking Dead'.......:banghead:
 
We aren't concerned about "zombies", but there ARE real-life thugs that DO go through neighborhoods. There has been a increase in break-ins while homeowners are there, recently. We don't live out in the safety of the countryside. This is suburbia. NC
 
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Magoo,

Gas here about twenty miles south-southeast of Boston, MA is $1.77 per gallon at the moment; I heard in Kentucky, Tennessee and a few other states it's dipped to $0.99 or lower. For gas to be below $2.00 per gallon here in Taxachusetts is pretty remarkable.
 
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We aren't concerned about "zombies", but there ARE real-life thugs that DO go through neighborhoods. There has been a increase in break-ins while homeowners are there, recently. We don't live out in the safety of the countryside. This is suburbia. NC

Navy Chief,

A good friend of mine, GearyMcS, is a former Master Sergeant and lives in Panama City, we spoke last night on Skype. If they make it to Panama City, he's ready for them. Good luck and stay safe!
 
OK...so some random thoughts and comments.

Zombies: The have been around for a while. They are the ones who can't extract themselves from their Smart Phones.

TP: You can't survive on it and my shower/w hand-held are one step away...in a pinch. Worst case...the yard is full of pine cones. :encouragement:

Gas Prices: I just went across the street to the local store/fuel station. Gas was $4.57 USD for one gallon, but a coffee refill was still a buck. The upside...the bike gets 50 MPG, providing I don't grab too much throttle. The Silverado has been re-tasked to firewood and fuel storage.

China Economy: They may appear strong, but they are inextricably woven into the Gordian Knot of Derivatives and negative bond yields, and they hold a ton of U.S. Debt in the form of long term bonds. Deutsche is the plunger in the powder keg, but JPM and quite a few others share the potential to set off the chain reaction.

Download the IMF white paper.
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2017/09/29/Interconnectedness-of-Global-Systemically-Important-Banks-and-Insurers-45223

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I have long forecast that the Bond Bubble would break, beginning with China. I didn't know specifically what the pin would be to pop the bubble...but the current Black Swan event certainly has momentum.

Compare the exponential growth of the pathogen against the exponential growth of the Repo bailout numbers. You can get those from the New York Fed website and build your own spreadsheet. The bailouts and the bug charts are carbon copies of each other. The original overnight interest spike that triggered the Repo crisis began last September...about the time that the bug was either accidentally, or intentionally introduced into the wild. The Repo money ran on a long flat line until the "virus" began to break out to the exponential. Now the Repo requires trillions per day, just to keep the banks liquidity stable. On a good day pre-Covid19, a nudge of one basis point would trigger chaos in the markets. Shutting down a global economic engine completely, for months, sets off an irreversible chain of "calls" on short contracts and derivative hedges. These are algorithm driven and nearly impossible to intervene...most likely the entire process is now block chain.

The massive banks are in a panic to dump their short contracts on Gold and Silver. Just go to any legitimate dealer and look at the bid and ask, then go try to buy a coin. The contracts are hammering the shorts on digital metal, but premiums on real coins are rising while inventory's on physical have been completely depleted.

All of this points to a very dangerous situation where governments will bail in infinite trillions to stop the hemorrhaging, but in reality the entire system is at risk...most likely beginning with Deutsche Bank, who were already auguring in for months prior to the bug.

I have a personal strategy which I base on my understanding of economics, politics and human nature. I have followed it for nearly twenty years.
I live 300 miles north of Los Angeles...intentionally. That is more than one tank of gas for just about everybody except line haulers. My home is one of the last structures on the eastern fringe of Kalifornia, from my kitchen window east there are thee states of desert and low mountain ranges. At my back are the Sierra Nevada Mountains which go straight up to 13,000 ft directly out my back door. No one, and I mean no one is going to cross the labyrinth of glacier canyons that separate me from Western Kalifornia without some serious climbing gear and a guide. From the south the desert is virtually impassable for anyone wishing to walk from LA to my house to steal potatoes. Same to the north but its Reno, which is 150 miles drive/walk. The roads both directions are either two lane or four lane...very controllable with multiple choke points...if necessary. And...Los Angeles only water travels down the same Owens Valley, leaving them very vulnerable to pissed off ranchers..if you get my meaning. It's not like it hasn't happened before...the Mulholland/California Water Wars. Just sayin'.

I own my home, I'm not tied to the State with property taxes, technically the mobile is a vehicle. The structure is covered with corrugated metal and the walls are insulated with rigid foam, which is lined both sides with foil. Tin foil hat...maybe, but corrugated metal is a dandy Faraday Cage none the less. Call me a nutter, but I find it prudent to anticipate all variables.
Locally we have a fully capable geo-thermal plant that can produce infinite energy from the lava lake below our butts. We have fish hatcheries that can be converted to food production, and we have many lakes within waking distance. The meadows are fertile cattle grazing soil that produce fields of edible flowers, and the streams are full of watercress and other edibles. This is cattle country, so food on the hoof is available for barter if necessary...and this is deer country.

Calculating all of the available data, I am prepared to ride out worst case scenarios. The parallel trajectory of the pathogen and the potential for economic brain freeze are at this time breaking out to the exponential. I see no reversal on the horizon, so I'll create a strategy based on best available data, which is horrifically comprised at best. I'm allowing for the probability, and likelihood that data have been intentionally suppressed "to avoid panic". However, the charts don't lie, and the charts are going vertical. That's all I need to know until trends show signs of changing trajectory, but that is doubtful in light of existing supply chain shock.

Recognizing that the post 2008 bailout (23 trillion all told) bond/derivatives bubbles have been systematically re-hypotheticated out into the quadrillions, I doubt that any form of theoretical economics will begin to touch a collapse once the weight passes the event horizon...and that is dangerously close. The trillions the Fed and Plunge Protection algorithm riggers threw at the markets resulted in precisely zero effectiveness, well not exactly zero seeing as how those billions were/are plunged into stock buy backs benefiting corporate officers and creating illusions of a 30,000 point market.
Bottom line, there is no amount of counterfeit FIAT money that can put this monster back in its box.

IMHO, the lunatics have screwed the pooch big time, and BTW...the bug came out of the University of North Carolina and was sold to the Chinese by a...err...former administration. That's proven data. The rest appears to be a temper tantrum of galactic proportions, thus validating my thesis that Eisenhower was right, and the lunatics took over the asylum.

I've done the best I can, I've tried my best to help my friends prepare, now hopefully I can help my friends get through this as I implement what I have learned over the last two decades. If it all blows by, I'm none the worse for wear. If it doesn't I'm as prepared as I can be to ride out a storm.

Thanks for being my friends. We don't necessarily need to agree but we can certainly share our combined knowledge to navigate what is clearly evolving into a life altering social paradigm shift.

Ancillary tidbit;
Go the Boston Fed website and search "Road to Roota" for some fascinating insights into what is currently taking place.
For those inclined towards forensics...the insights are profound. Begin by asking why Nobel Laureates are writing comic books.
https://www.bostonfed.org/publications/economic-education/road-to-roota.aspx
 
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Nothing to do with the current situation but I've been looking at Tesla's for some time, more as a daily driver but one that is a quick as well.
I'm going to grow old(er) disgracefully!
:devilish:

LOL...I love it. I'll bet you've seen the Youtube videos of street-racing Tesla's whooping....welll.....anything? (!!) I'd love to buy an insurance write-off Tesla and stuff the bits into a full sized American pickup truck, but they get snapped-up instantly by car trade insiders. Maybe in a few years when there's more of them on the road.


Rami said:
Gas here about twenty miles south-southeast of Boston, MA is $1.77 per gallon at the moment;

YEEPERS! In Canuckspeak that works out forty six point seven cents (US) per litre. The funny thing right now, is that just about every vehicle you can see parked over here has it's tank filled, and if the owner has any jerry cans.....those too. As well.....very few folks are driving anywhere at all, so as the price at the pumps dips further down......almost nobody turns up!

What would you call that, product saturation?

Curious times. :dizzy:
 
OK...so some random thoughts and comments.

Well.....I had to come to a flight simulator website to find one of the most rational postings I've read so far. I can't disagree with your description of the global scenario.

One thing I've noticed on a personal level is more and more encounters with individuals (at 6' + distance please...) who claim to be pulling out their guns & ammo, cleaning and sighting everything with the idea that it's all going Mad Max in the next little while.

Certainly a lot of history will show that those living in an urban centre will be at max disadvantage, regardless the form it takes on in the next few weeks, months, years.

Regarding China, looking past the international financial side of projected loss, I still think they can out-weather anybody else on the planet. Quite simply the Communist Party is inside everything. Every board meeting, every employee safety meeting, every bloody broom closet.

The ability of Beijing to extend real decision making power in real time to every single inch of the country is right off the scale compared to.....anybody else on the planet. I suspect they're willing and ready to allow some sacrificial damage in order to extend a greater "international financial strategy".....an amount that may seem ludicrous to outsiders looking in. Should the C-19 virus be proven to be purposefully release, then that alone is a small example of the sort of sacrifice that Beijing would labour under in order to further incapacitate their traditional competitors, or, anybody they could see as a threat.

( That would be anybody who is not currently under their thumb...)

Expect creativity that is off the scale, and if the thing fails to meet their goals, expect a public temper tantrum that should be quite amusing in the end.

I'm very reluctant to go into a further speculative analysis as it would become quite socio-political, and this ain't the place. But I think that the simple policy of keeping a balanced sense of observance or vigilance, and preparing for a reasonable worst case scenario wouldn't be a bad personal policy.
 
Unfortunately, my wife & I (like most, I think) live in suburbia. We own our home, but that isn't much of a plus right now. I don't even pretend to understand the workings of the stock market, etc... We are debt free, but again, but whatever. We don't have access to any fish hatcheries, nor do we have a geo-thermal anything. County water & electricity. The nearest lake is about a hour away. We're definitely not self-sufficient. So, if (and I pray IF) the crap hits the fan, we would be ok for a few days, then chaos would naturally ensue, and I guess our time on this earth would come to a end. No other way to look at it, realistically. NC
 
Unfortunately, my wife & I (like most, I think) live in suburbia. We own our home, but that isn't much of a plus right now. I don't even pretend to understand the workings of the stock market, etc... We are debt free, but again, but whatever. We don't have access to any fish hatcheries, nor do we have a geo-thermal anything. County water & electricity. The nearest lake is about a hour away. We're definitely not self-sufficient. So, if (and I pray IF) the crap hits the fan, we would be ok for a few days, then chaos would naturally ensue, and I guess our time on this earth would come to a end. No other way to look at it, realistically. NC

Pete, focus on your strengths and training.

You live in a perpetual growing climate. A back yard can produce an abundance and variety of foods. County water and electricity will likely not be interrupted. COG
Forget about non GMO seeds, get basics like tomatoes, beans and leafy greens. I won't comment on chaos, it will be everywhere...even here. IF it hits the fan.

Keep your head on the swivel...you'll be OK.
 
Heh.....one more update before I wander away to try and do some "pretend it's normal" things.

It has come to my attention that the British Columbia Chapter of The Girl Guides has been stuck with 800,000 boxes of their famous COOKIES and have no mean to distribute them.

Now.....if I was a multi-millionaire, certainly I could afford to transfer funds electronically, send over a team clad in hazmat suits, transfer the cookies to my fleet of trusty restored (disinfected) DC-3's, and conduct a province wide relief parachute drop. (Maybe with small parachutes made from usable toilet paper....?)

Sadly....I'm cannot even begin to approach this except in fantasy.

So what's to be done?

Maybe provide some pre-sterilized cash on the end of a forty foot pole, in hopes that they'd toss a dozen boxes out the window?

This is gotta be the tell tale sign of true social tragedy in the making.

Girl Guide cookies......so close....but so far away.

It's 21rst Century Shakespeare, ain't it?
 
You have to look at the light side.
Among the current crop of restrictions here in Oz a couple are stand outs!
It helps if one has a black sense of humor.

Weddings: No more than five individuals including the bride and groom, the celebrant and two witnesses.
Funerals: No more than ten individuals including the celebrant. They haven't made mention of the Undertaker and Pall Bearers yet but I figure one Undertaker plus four Pall Bearers hypothetically would leave four places for
family members provided the occupant of the casket is discounted.

:encouragement:
 
...provided the occupant of the casket is discounted.
Well, it aint like the the occupant of the casket can catch, spread, or get any worse, from "THE Virus". If they sneeze in someone's face, perhaps their status needs to be re-assessed! :dizzy:

As to the weddings, well, they can add one to the grooms side. After all, HIS life is over once he says "I do..." :D

Have fun, all! After all, if you aint having fun, why bother?
Pat☺
 
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