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Well I have come a lot lot further (hours and hours now!) - same plane and airport every single time.
It still doesn't look quite as nice as FSX (AA jaggies and a bit dark) but I have a very stable 26 fps - this was achieved by setting 26 p3d and wait for it.....26 in an external frame rate limiter (after editing batch file to change the 9 to 11 - not that I think the 11 does anything but I am sure it shouldn't be 9). The difference for me was huge. Also took off the limiter in Nvidia. More stutters at 30.
I also used these settings (taken from Airdailyx - I have 3 monitors with mth2go though plus the 26 fps limited as explained)
My scenery settings were tested 1 at a time and I found the best was to stagger them with the top one the highest (but 2 positions down) and each one 1 position lower successively.
I have shadows only in VC. I think I turned off most if not all lights.
Run full screen without the menu across the top.
Tessellation down in lower 1/3rd (big diff)
Clouds down to nothing at the moment.
Latest drivers and inspector.
Venetubo's tweaks unaltered and not Kosta's.
Obviously click the screen before taking off - jumps from 12 to 26 fps.
In Nvidia
- I found "enhance" was better and I am guessing from my testing the black screen is related mainly to this single setting outside of p3d (not that this solves it but changing it can invoke it more - perhaps that Nvidia issue they talk about on their forums?)
- SSGS 4 times
Also I had Aero disabled so I enabled that.
Still searching for better Nvidia settings, also I need to choose some setting in Nvidia panel itself but I forgot what it was. Anyone know?
It still doesn't look quite as nice as FSX (AA jaggies and a bit dark) but I have a very stable 26 fps - this was achieved by setting 26 p3d and wait for it.....26 in an external frame rate limiter (after editing batch file to change the 9 to 11 - not that I think the 11 does anything but I am sure it shouldn't be 9). The difference for me was huge. Also took off the limiter in Nvidia. More stutters at 30.
I also used these settings (taken from Airdailyx - I have 3 monitors with mth2go though plus the 26 fps limited as explained)
My scenery settings were tested 1 at a time and I found the best was to stagger them with the top one the highest (but 2 positions down) and each one 1 position lower successively.
I have shadows only in VC. I think I turned off most if not all lights.
Run full screen without the menu across the top.
Tessellation down in lower 1/3rd (big diff)
Clouds down to nothing at the moment.
Latest drivers and inspector.
Venetubo's tweaks unaltered and not Kosta's.
Obviously click the screen before taking off - jumps from 12 to 26 fps.
In Nvidia
- I found "enhance" was better and I am guessing from my testing the black screen is related mainly to this single setting outside of p3d (not that this solves it but changing it can invoke it more - perhaps that Nvidia issue they talk about on their forums?)
- SSGS 4 times
Also I had Aero disabled so I enabled that.
Still searching for better Nvidia settings, also I need to choose some setting in Nvidia panel itself but I forgot what it was. Anyone know?
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I think everyone will be going through all you're describing considering we each have different machines and hardware specs. I'm actually going about things in reverse. I turned everything up to max and de-tuning to dial it in smooth, clear and stutter free. I'm running SSD's and a GTX570, and a 2600K cpu clocked at 4.6. So far things are looking real good. I'm very happy with the results in this new version of the simulator.
Happy Tuning!
Happy Tuning!
Yes "happy tuning"!
I would be interested if anyone has the gauges et al in the A2A cub looking OK and not "alive" (if you know what I mean) to get your Nvidia settings.
Mine are obviously not right.
A request on Prepar3D forums has not be answered as yet and is down the bottom of the page
I would be interested if anyone has the gauges et al in the A2A cub looking OK and not "alive" (if you know what I mean) to get your Nvidia settings.
Mine are obviously not right.
A request on Prepar3D forums has not be answered as yet and is down the bottom of the page
OK I found out that I have been 100% wasting my time trying to improve the look of P3D.
From what I read I understand AA and some other items are slated to be fixed in 2.1
What is funny is that no-one points this out.....everyone just says it is running great so i spent ages trying to fix the unfixable!
On the plus side I seem to have awesome smoothness and stable FPS considering I have multiple monitors and only a 1GB GTX580.
But basically V2 does not look as good as FSX - dark not warm textures and AA is poor.
Confirmed on Prepar3D's forums.
Hope this helps someone else not waste many hours like I did!
From what I read I understand AA and some other items are slated to be fixed in 2.1
What is funny is that no-one points this out.....everyone just says it is running great so i spent ages trying to fix the unfixable!
On the plus side I seem to have awesome smoothness and stable FPS considering I have multiple monitors and only a 1GB GTX580.
But basically V2 does not look as good as FSX - dark not warm textures and AA is poor.
Confirmed on Prepar3D's forums.
Hope this helps someone else not waste many hours like I did!
Adding Prepar3D v2 to nVidia Inspector
I think this is what Roger was meaning. I've just begun experimenting with NI myself.
P38man, you and I are close for graphics units. I also continue to test.
Once you add the Prepar3D v2 exe to the profile, make sure to name it accordingly. In my case I have a profile for v1.4 and v2.0
I'm using NI v1.9.6.5 SO I'm in need of updating before I continue. The latest version is 1.9.7.2 http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvidia_inspector_download.html
The image is an example only. It's rather dated.
I think this is what Roger was meaning. I've just begun experimenting with NI myself.
P38man, you and I are close for graphics units. I also continue to test.
Once you add the Prepar3D v2 exe to the profile, make sure to name it accordingly. In my case I have a profile for v1.4 and v2.0
I'm using NI v1.9.6.5 SO I'm in need of updating before I continue. The latest version is 1.9.7.2 http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvidia_inspector_download.html
The image is an example only. It's rather dated.
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Sorry to hear you are having problems.
Very nice. Good to hear.
Sorry to hear you wasted your time and that you are not happy with P3D, that it is too dark for you.
The darkness (in the shadows) is called HDR and is what the rest of the world in the gaming industry has started adapting to. It envolves the human element in visual realism. Have you thought of un-ticking the HDR ticker and see what its like without it?
Also, I think its well known that if you set your frame rates super high, that your rig is always fighting to do more then it needs to. For instance, doesn't the human eye view frequency run at something like 36 or 48 FPS, and if you set your rig to 120 FPS, its like something you would never notice. Could I be wrong on that? I sware I heard that a few times back when FSX came out.
In the mean time, I am thoroughly enjoying P3D.
Fast frame rates, HDR, high resolution, I now have AA running which I couldn't do with 1.4 or FSX.Bill
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If this is another sim or game that has to have Nvidia Inspector installed and tweaked in able to look correct than I am not interested. I am tired of band-aid solutions for suposadly finished product.
I was never fond of having to deal with settings outside of the simulation program itself, but, considering hardware, memory, overclocking (if overclocked), no one knows what the optimal settings are for "my" machine configuration. And no one can adjust things like I can. My GTX570 is dated as far as this simulation programs, programming is concerned, therefore I elect to try to get everything I can out of the hardware I have for the time being.
And the last of them.
There is also a setting here where you can change the visual light timeline. It appears to change the horizon at which the light shines. You might also try this for brightening things up.
I might think the issue you're seeing is relative to your monitor possibly? You might try adjusting that also? As it is currently, I'm getting an average of 40FPS while having Orbx PNW installed, while really hauling Aston Martin. I'm very happy with the results considering my video card is so dated.
There is also a setting here where you can change the visual light timeline. It appears to change the horizon at which the light shines. You might also try this for brightening things up.
I might think the issue you're seeing is relative to your monitor possibly? You might try adjusting that also? As it is currently, I'm getting an average of 40FPS while having Orbx PNW installed, while really hauling Aston Martin. I'm very happy with the results considering my video card is so dated.
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Messing about with NI is more experimental for me due to my video card alone. With the settings I have currently in use things are very smooth and stutter free.
As an additional adjustment setting, disable AA in P3D v2, and use the settings directly through the video card, or (as I am doing) through NI.
As an additional adjustment setting, disable AA in P3D v2, and use the settings directly through the video card, or (as I am doing) through NI.
Hi Bill.....well my problems are solved in a way because I don't have to spend any more time on it. I wasn't complaining, I was actually trying to aid others, that was my intent
Ah I see, your experience is an AA improvement. I have near perfect AA as I guess it could be in FSX (awesomely but took a lot testing and extra help from others more knowledgeable than me) so for me it is a step down.
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=4032.0#postid-18593
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=3862
Is this an issue?
"We will keep working with Nvidia to troubleshoot this but all the feedback we have gotten this far would indicate that there isn't anything we can do on our end to allow the overrides to work. Some of them may simply not work with d3d11"
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=postreply&thread=3862"e=17527.0
About darkness. Will double-check all settings when I get home, thanks Bill
(but pretty sure all lighting is off, all shadows off other than "Internal vehicle", vol fog off too btw)
Wow Oleboy, I have not tried your combo but have "enhanced" as well. That is awesome, thanks a lot for sharing!
We progress!
I will however hold off on a new GPU until AA is fixed
Ah I see, your experience is an AA improvement. I have near perfect AA as I guess it could be in FSX (awesomely but took a lot testing and extra help from others more knowledgeable than me) so for me it is a step down.
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=4032.0#postid-18593
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=3862
Is this an issue?
"We will keep working with Nvidia to troubleshoot this but all the feedback we have gotten this far would indicate that there isn't anything we can do on our end to allow the overrides to work. Some of them may simply not work with d3d11"
http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/?mingleforumaction=postreply&thread=3862"e=17527.0
About darkness. Will double-check all settings when I get home, thanks Bill
(but pretty sure all lighting is off, all shadows off other than "Internal vehicle", vol fog off too btw)
Wow Oleboy, I have not tried your combo but have "enhanced" as well. That is awesome, thanks a lot for sharing!
We progress!
I will however hold off on a new GPU until AA is fixed
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P38man. See four posts above. There is one more thing (see last image) that you can try. You can change the timeline of the day to whatever your likings. And save it.
BTW, I am thinking the issue could be the driver you are using? Possibly? I am using the latest for EVGA. No issues aside from in Gmax where it makes things look jagged. You might consider a different version of drivers as a test also.
With the video card you have in relation to mine you should be golden for visuals. I can fly the Raptor full throttle at low altitude with no issues. The visuals are actually amazing.
BTW, I am thinking the issue could be the driver you are using? Possibly? I am using the latest for EVGA. No issues aside from in Gmax where it makes things look jagged. You might consider a different version of drivers as a test also.
With the video card you have in relation to mine you should be golden for visuals. I can fly the Raptor full throttle at low altitude with no issues. The visuals are actually amazing.
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