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The Avro Vulcan B Mk. 2, K.2 & MRR for MSFS

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A definite purchase for me - one of my favourite aircraft, and from Just Flight too. Really looking forward to it.
 
I feel like this is going to end up as P3D-expensive an JF's other planes, but I'll likely make an exception for this one.

Would have loved the F28, 146, and Hawk, but those prices are just nuts compared to other MSFS planes I haven't fully explored yet. I hope they make enough off those of us who'll pay extra for niche planes that it justifies losing all the sales from more casual fliers.
 
DennyA said:
I feel like this is going to end up as P3D-expensive an JF's other planes, but I'll likely make an exception for this one.

Would have loved the F28, 146, and Hawk, but those prices are just nuts compared to other MSFS planes I haven't fully explored yet. I hope they make enough off those of us who'll pay extra for niche planes that it justifies losing all the sales from more casual fliers.
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I don't think the Vulcan is a casual flier. ;-) Really looking forward to this one, but bet it will be around +$60 when released based upon the detail and functionality shown. I suppose JF could offer a "lite" version with fewer models and features like what is being done with the Sherpa. MSFS is not DCS combat, so I wonder about the general appeal to a wider MSFS audience for a cold war bomber that does not have simulated nuclear strike capaiblity.
 
dvj said:
MSFS is not DCS combat, so I wonder about the general appeal to a wider MSFS audience for a cold war bomber that does not have simulated nuclear strike capaiblity.
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I don't think it'll affect sales, as no such mission was carried out anyway. On the other hand, JF is including a simulated AAR function so that you can fly the Black Buck missions, when the Vulcan actually was used in anger. For me, the main appeal is the long distance flights, such as attending Red Flag Exercises in the USA, or the journey to RAAF Edinburgh in South Australia, to thrill a certain 10-year-old boy.
 
Paul K said:
I don't think it'll affect sales, as no such mission was carried out anyway. On the other hand, JF is including a simulated AAR function so that you can fly the Black Buck missions, when the Vulcan actually was used in anger. For me, the main appeal is the long distance flights, such as attending Red Flag Exercises in the USA, or the journey to RAAF Edinburgh in South Australia, to thrill a certain 10-year-old boy.
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I flew in a Red Flag where the Brits and their Vulcan's were present. It was an awesome plane to watch taking off. Lots of "freedom" noise on T/O.
 
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I envy you - it must have been quite something to be part of.
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Red Flag missions were the most realistic wartime flying available. We got shot down on one mission. The maintainers were watching on the big monitor, so they knew. When we taxied in the assistant crew chief was lying on the concrete with a flower in his hands pretending to be dead.

The WSO and I bought them dinner, complete with beer that night.
 
jmig said:
Red Flag missions were the most realistic wartime flying available. We got shot down on one mission. The maintainers were watching on the big monitor, so they knew. When we taxied in the assistant crew chief was lying on the concrete with a flower in his hands pretending to be dead.

The WSO and I bought them dinner, complete with beer that night.
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Great story! :)
 
jmig said:
Red Flag missions were the most realistic wartime flying available. We got shot down on one mission. The maintainers were watching on the big monitor, so they knew. When we taxied in the assistant crew chief was lying on the concrete with a flower in his hands pretending to be dead.

The WSO and I bought them dinner, complete with beer that night.
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What aircraft type were you flying?
- Kenneth
 
jmig said:
I flew the RF-4C.
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I have fond memories of the RF-4C. I lived near RAF Alconbury in the years the 10th TRW was based there with their RF-4C's. Through connections I even got to have a go in the front seat of the RF-4C simulator on the base. Would love to see a good version of it in MSFS with the "AR" codes proudly emblazoned on the tail.

The Phantom was always a favorite of mine. I later took a press flight on a KC-135 out of RAF Mildenhall. We refueled Luftwaffe F-4F's out into the Atlantic before we turned back and they carried on the Goose Bay. After I moved to Canada in 1988 I met one of the F-4 pilots we shared the sky with on that mission. He was at the air show in London, Ontario with two F-4's from Pferdsfeld.

But I bet you could write a book on your flying stories. I'd not only read it, as an author I'd happily help you write it! I did a few biographies for clients about ten years ago.

BUT..... Back to the Vulcan. Loved that machine. Saw it at many air shows in my teens, and recall as an Air Cadet manning the cut-off front end of a Vulcan at a show. Public came in and I sat in the left seat telling them "These are the engine instruments, and these are the flight instruments" as if I knew what I was talking about at age 14. But I loved my afternoon in that cockpit.

- Kenneth
 
vipgroup said:
I have fond memories of the RF-4C. I lived near RAF Alconbury in the years the 10th TRW was based there with their RF-4C's. Through connections I even got to have a go in the front seat of the RF-4C simulator on the base. Would love to see a good version of it in MSFS with the "AR" codes proudly emblazoned on the tail.

The Phantom was always a favorite of mine. I later took a press flight on a KC-135 out of RAF Mildenhall. We refueled Luftwaffe F-4F's out into the Atlantic before we turned back and they carried on the Goose Bay. After I moved to Canada in 1988 I met one of the F-4 pilots we shared the sky with on that mission. He was at the air show in London, Ontario with two F-4's from Pferdsfeld.

But I bet you could write a book on your flying stories. I'd not only read it, as an author I'd happily help you write it! I did a few biographies for clients about ten years ago.

BUT..... Back to the Vulcan. Loved that machine. Saw it at many air shows in my teens, and recall as an Air Cadet manning the cut-off front end of a Vulcan at a show. Public came in and I sat in the left seat telling them "These are the engine instruments, and these are the flight instruments" as if I knew what I was talking about at age 14. But I loved my afternoon in that cockpit.

- Kenneth
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The RF-4C was a fun airplane to fly. Big, noisy, and smoky. There was no doubt that this was a war machine. We flew a lot of low-level which was a blast. Flying at 420-480 kts and 100' AGL makes any amusement park ride "Oh Hum".

I never made it to Europe in the Air Force. I would have liked to do so. I would hear all these cool stories, but it was not to be. I later had to go on my own nickel.

A book based on my career would be rather boring. I went to SEA just as the shooting was ending. I never flew north of the DMZ, only in southern Vietnam. I came back to the States and PCS at Shaw, AFB in South Carolina. I did go on several TDY's to Bergstrom, AFB in Austin, TX. I flew in two Red Flags exercises. Through it all, I took pictures (well the WSO took e'm) of quite a few monuments and famous buildings. I was also accused of killing 200 chickens by flying too low over their coops. Heck, I was at least 50 feet above them and didn't even go supersonic. The farmer should have known better than put chicken coops along a low level route. That incident cost the Air Force a chunk of change.
 
jmig said:
The RF-4C was a fun airplane to fly. Big, noisy, and smoky. There was no doubt that this was a war machine. We flew a lot of low-level which was a blast. Flying at 420-480 kts and 100' AGL makes any amusement park ride "Oh Hum".

I never made it to Europe in the Air Force. I would have liked to do so. I would hear all these cool stories, but it was not to be. I later had to go on my own nickel.

A book based on my career would be rather boring. I went to SEA just as the shooting was ending. I never flew north of the DMZ, only in southern Vietnam. I came back to the States and PCS at Shaw, AFB in South Carolina. I did go on several TDY's to Bergstrom, AFB in Austin, TX. I flew in two Red Flags exercises. Through it all, I took pictures (well the WSO took e'm) of quite a few monuments and famous buildings. I was also accused of killing 200 chickens by flying too low over their coops. Heck, I was at least 50 feet above them and didn't even go supersonic. The farmer should have known better than put chicken coops along a low level route. That incident cost the Air Force a chunk of change.
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At least those chickens didn't end up in your engines! Forget Kentucky Fried Chicken or McDonalds, it would have been "McDonnell Douglas Fried Chicken!" - LOL Thanks for sharing.
- Kenneth
 
vipgroup said:
I have fond memories of the RF-4C. I lived near RAF Alconbury in the years the 10th TRW was based there with their RF-4C's.
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I was with the MOD at Alconbury. I started there just after the F-5 Aggressors left and the A-10s arrived. We had ANG RF-4s on TDY at times too. We'd just finished developing the other side of the base with hardened facilities for the TR-1 ( later known as the U2-R ) when Bill Clinton exacted his revenge on John Major and closed it all down. Some of those brand new hardened shelters never housed a single aircraft, and the enormous EMP-proof Building 200 was never once used by anyone. A colossal waste of money.
 
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