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Upgrading Mobo and CPU?

Stefano Zibell said:
First of all, your graphics card being a 970, what you have there is a severe CPU bottleneck. This means it is not fast enough to send in all the frames your graphics card could chew up and spit into your monitor.
Cheers and tailwinds for you.
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It would seem then that the pairing I have currently (better than average GPU, mismatched CPU and Win7 OS) is the reason for the current poor performance. As I've mentioned several times before, this pairing plus Win10 was perfect. V4 ran smooth as silk with autogen as far as the eye could see and seldom did I ever detect even the slightest stutter. With Win7. . .the Sim actually stops for as much as 3 or 4 seconds then continues the flight and scattered in between are constant stutters. Something has to give, lol
 
Ed, there is nothing wrong with your GTX 970 as long as you don't upgrade too far. It is a 256 bit card and will do just fine with what I recommended even DDR memory or Butcherbird's RYZEN suggestion since you are a scenery developer. Should you move to a Kabylake processor you would be better off with a GTX 1080 Ti but that is ridiculously expensive right now. I live on small pension and SS too now. If it weren't for the gamer system I build I would probably go under but I've been doing this for 18 years.
 
txnetcop said:
Ed, there is nothing wrong with your GTX 970 as long as you don't upgrade too far. It is a 256 bit card and will do just fine with what I recommended even DDR memory or Butcherbird's RYZEN suggestion since you are a scenery developer. Should you move to a Kabylake processor you would be better off with a GTX 1080 Ti but that is ridiculously expensive right now. I live on small pension and SS too now. If it weren't for the gamer system I build I would probably go under but I've been doing this for 18 years.
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With Fryes as close as it is. . .their parts (motherboard and CPU) would run $418. I would need a better cooling fan also so that would up it a bit. Not bad I guess.
 
I don't understand your problem with Windows 7. I'm running P3D 4 on my Win 7 64bit system with no problems at all. I have this-

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I also am running P3dv4 on an older Win 7 x64 Pro system and it is working very well. Far better than my FSX installation, that's for sure.
I consistently get between 20 and 25 FPS and I haven't tried any tweaks yet, so it's just a plain vanilla installation so far.
 
Penzoil3 said:
I don't understand your problem with Windows 7. I'm running P3D 4 on my Win 7 64bit system with no problems at all. I have this-

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Probably because everything about your system is faster. . .Core Speed, CPU (Type & Speed), memory (much better and faster).
 
DagR said:
Whatever you decide to do, do not buy an AMD CPU.
Ideally an Intel i7-6700 will give you great performance.
An SSD drive is also great to have for the OS and sim.
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Disagree. I have built countless comps for people and done many with AMD. I have no issues with AMD what so ever. I even use AMD vid cards and avoid that whole insane Nhancer mess with no issues. My 8 core AMD running at 4.5Ghz runs FSX just fine. No glitches at all...
 
Hdguy said:
Disagree. I have built countless comps for people and done many with AMD. I have no issues with AMD what so ever. I even use AMD vid cards and avoid that whole insane Nhancer mess with no issues. My 8 core AMD running at 4.5Ghz runs FSX just fine. No glitches at all...
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Never used nhancer, whatever that's good for. I have had plenty a taste of amd/ati graphics cards and a couple of amd cpus and they never stayed for long. The thrusty i7-860 I had before my current i7-6700K, purchased last year, lasted from 2009 up until then.


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Before the advent of Ryzen the AMD cores have been pretty ho-hum. Lately I have been testing Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 (1700 and 1800) on the Asus ThreadRipper motherboard. As with any new product they are a little buggy but so far for gaming the benchmarks are a little less than i7 6600k. I think AMD has finally done a winner, not better than Intel but certainly closer to equal than in the past. It used to be that 4.5 GHz in AMD was equal to 3.5GHz in speed to Intel...now the match is evening up and the graphics details are outstanding. And if you are a developer Ryzen's 8 cores and 16 threads are built to handle multi-core task like video production, modelling and streaming much faster. The great thing about Ryzen being around is that it has brought the prices of Intel down significantly and has forced Intel to continue past Kabylake CPUs a little sooner.
Ted
 
Couldn't agree more Ted!
Bang for buck the new AMD generation look really good, especially when the A$ is still pretty ordinary.
Not that I'd rush out and buy an AMD box just yet but if it gives Intel a wake up call then thats a very good thing.
Come to think of it, I am going to put together a PC for Sofie (she's fallen out of love with her iPad!) as a daily driver, and this might be a good Ryzen experiment.
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Hey All,

I posted sometime ago about Ryzen as I was and am going to build a computer. I did not do anything then as I had to spend a bunch of money on my daughters wedding and then 2 weeks plus in Montana all on Canadian pesos.

Now I am back to it. Since then there has been talk of improved - faster I hope - ryzen2 cpus next year which supposedly will use the current am4 mobos. So maybe ryzen now with CPU upgrade in the future?

But to muddy waters the x299 Intel's (kabylake x and skylake x) are out with apparently issues like dongles for raid arrays. I really like the looks of the coming next month x299 mitx from a asrock. The x299s look like powerful somewhat futureproof cpus but not cheap.

So what to do?

-Ed-
 
Good thing about ryzen is they're ALL unlocked for overclock. Hopefully intel follows along in the next generation.

Also their overclock enabled motherboards (B350 at least) aren't expensive like intel Z chipsets.
 
falcon409 said:
This is only a what if scenario right now because I know it will be expensive and I'm not into "expensive" right now. I just want some opinions on what will work within my current tower.

My current Motherboard is an MSI760G-E51
My current CPU is a 3.90Ghz FX-4300 Quad-Core

I'm currently running 16Gig of Memory.

For those who remember, this is the Computer that was built with donations from everyone here at SOH after my previous system was fried. . .hook, line and sinker. I don't even remember how long ago that was but it has been many, many years ago now. It has been a great system, but P3D_V4 has shown it to be lacking and if I intend to continue at all I'll have to bite the bullet and improve on what I have or go back to FSX and be content with that.

So any opinions will be appreciated.
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Four years ago actually:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/77821-Falcon-409-MB
My previous system, with an Intel i7-860, lasted from 2009-2016 and the wife still uses it for photo editing :) Go Intel :)


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