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Though derailed, it's quite on topic in a sense.

Let's don't confuse things and keep it simple :

Nobody has ever said or claimed that FSX has been turned to a Combat Sim dew to some
addons and can compete native hardcore combat sims like the ones you mention.
Not even VRS that produces the Tacpack.

For people interested in hardcore combat simming, I wouldn't suggest FSX/P3D either, but
one of the sims above. This is one thing and there is another tottaly different thing (that
the misunderstanding lies) :

If you fly Militaries in FSX/P3D and you want - wish to have the combat experience with them,
then nowadays you can. That's all about it.
It's a proposal to FSX/P3D fliers, not to the combat simming community in general...

You have described above the prons and cons that every sim has, FSX included.
The main advantage of FSX/P3D for me over the othe sims, is the personal engagement that
the sim allows :
You can make your own sceneries, airports, liveries, missions, photosceneries, even whole
airplanes by yourself, expressing your creativity and adding you personal stamp to the sim,
that this way feels a "personal" sim... No other sim gives you that.

FSX/P3D can serve as the "canvas" for your creations... now, compete with that !...

That's why when making something for FSX and hearing "BMS, DCS can do better" - so much
off topic as I've explained - I get annoyed. Of course they can, they are combat sims,
that FSX isn't. What's the news ?...

And yes, FSX is an adults hobby, meaning you must have a job and an income, because yes,
it can be expensive (like all hobbies).
 
First, let me say the video above was awesome. It's really nice to look at, and I also do such flights by myself (although in different areas).

Now, concerning the remarks made by Bjoern, I understand his point of view.
As far as I know, that F-16 is beautifully modeled (even by today's standards) but it's avionic is pretty much non-existent. The plane is not TacPacked so none of the military systems work.
That can be quite frustrating for some simmers, including myself.
Of course, the joy of simply flying from a waypoint to another over some nice photorealistic scenery is something you can't do in any military sim at the moment.
However, doing that without any radio chatter, and without anything happening around you, is quite disappointing for some of us.

I can understand what Bjoern said about flying around in BMS while other planes and ground vehicles are involved in many events all around. I really miss this environment in P3D.
The difference between flying a military plane in P3D and in BMS is exactly the same as flying a warbird with Accusim or without. In one case, you know that nothing will ever happen, no matter where you go or what you do. And that removes a lot of excitement.

That doesn't mean it's not enjoyable at all. ;)
 
I don't know why it has to be either or. I enjoy them both. My favorite use for Tacpack is training missions, which it adds a great deal to. Laying out a low level route for the F-4 or F-100 using timing and visual way points for a pop up attack on the Stumpy Point bombing range is one of my favorites. When I pop up, on time, and see the target off to the side and I roll in for a manual bombing pass, off without getting fragged, it is to me some of the most pure aviating you can do simulating military aviation.
Having pulled that off, on target, on time, using only pilotage methods, despite all the dynamic variables that real world wx throws at you is rewarding in a way I never got from Falcon 4.

Ripping across the forward edge of the battle area with my flight intact, having penetrated a vigorous integrated air defense is a rewarding feeling that comes with Falcon 4.
That is something that Tacpack does not do, nor does it attempt to do.
Both are great at what they do.
 
xpelekis said:
The main advantage of FSX/P3D for me over the othe sims, is the personal engagement that
the sim allows :
You can make your own sceneries, airports, liveries, missions, photosceneries, even whole
airplanes by yourself, expressing your creativity and adding you personal stamp to the sim,
that this way feels a "personal" sim... No other sim gives you that.
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At least 90% of other sims give you that. A flight sim that can't be modded either has to be very good or is going to be a definite commercial flop.
Even BMS has mods, although integrating them can be a bit daunting.



But back to FSX. Didn't you do the wingman AI demonstration using SimVars?
I've read Jim's SimVars documentation and your thread in the FSX@War forums. It looks like all that's needed is FSX Mission Editor and its SimVars client. Will the free version of FSXME do?
Your experiences sound interesting enough to play with a simple, commandable, wingman AI (with dogfighting capability). With some synthetic speech to acknowledge commands or announce kills, it could make military flying in FSX a lot more attractive to me. :)
Is it also possible to trigger an action when the AI aircraft is within a certain cone in front of your aircraft as to simulate gun kills? What about tracking events, e.g. for a tally? And more than one wingman?
Do you have a simple example mission using AI wingmen that I could analyze?
 
FYI: Volume II and III was released!

North Korea its a good choice ;)

Our second (Volume II) GeoPack release covers the countries of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Israel/Palestine with partial (border region) coverage extending into Turkey and Iraq. Total coverage for Vol II is 311,964 km2. Simulate battles over some of the most militarily active airspace on Earth in this extensive Middle-Eastern package. Designed by Norman Gibson, and including gigabytes of never-before released areas in FSX/P3D, this package will transform your mundane stock scenery into beautiful high-altitude photo-realistic landscapes.

Our third GeoPack volume covers the countries of North (DPRK) and South Korea, with partial (border region) coverage of China, Sea of Japan, and Yellow Sea. Total coverage for Vol II is 220,750 km2. Korea is in the news almost daily, with provocative actions occurring regularly from the North.Will the rhetoric turn to action with the region exploding into all-out war? See the starkly contrasting topographies like never before, and experience what it's like to fly over some of the most intensely charged airspace on Earth!

Note that GeoPack does NOT require an existing VRS product and will work on both FSX (any version) and P3D (any version), however, as with all VRS products, licenses are issued on a per computer basis. If you wish to run GeoPack on multiple computers, we expect you to purchase multiple copies.
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this wasnt good idea only for IFR flights (sharp line of phototextures on the ocean/sea):

 
Bought, but I'm not really happy with this resolution. Yes, agree, only for IFR from 30.000 ft.
It's a little pity, I'd like to pay +20$ more and have better quality of photo textures of Korea.
This is only for jets (and best for recon: do not go too low). Not edited examples from 8000 ft over ground.





 
wombat666 said:
How enterprising!
North Korea?
Now there"s a fine example of cashing in om current affairs.
:173go1:
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What are they going to do? Wait until North Korea isn't being hostile?

The Geopack series all centre around areas of conflict, past and present.
 
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