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Windows 10 Update Heads UP

gman5250

gman5250

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It was inevitable.

Today, Windows 10 carried out another one of its massive updates on my system. It came in quietly in the background and did its work...uninvited, and borked a few hours of design work I had open in 3DS Max in the boot.

The net result is that all of my personal settings and preferences have been re-set to Windows 10 default. These are settings that take quite a lot of time to tune to my specific requirements.

I have yet to assess the collateral damage, but I'm sure it will manifest itself along the way.
I know I'll catch grief from some here, but after many bouts with MS, I consider Win10 to be a decidedly unfriendly OS that prioritizes itself over the needs of the end user with utterly no regard to the damage these "security" updates cause.


I've put up this post as a HU for any and all running Windows 10. Proceed with caution.
 
gman5250 said:
...I consider Win10 to be a decidedly unfriendly OS that prioritizes itself over the needs of the end user with utterly no regard to the damage these "security" updates cause.
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Indeed. I have one Win10 system here I manage and that will be it for a few years. Will run the wheels off the Win 8.1 and Win 7 systems we have. Just tired of messing with MS's products (retiring next year and will no longer worry about my software working on MS platforms).

Good luck,

Greg
 
Better stop having illusions about Microsoft's willing to become user-friendly. That will never happen. But on the other hand: where would we be without them??? And let's not talk about Apple.....

Count your blessings,

hertzie.
 
Sorry to hear of this setback. My only computer with Windows 10 is an office laptop that I use for some, but not all, business applications. Windows 7 is looking pretty good right now, at least for flight sim use, but eventually we will all be forced into the Windows 10 box.

Hmmmm... forced into the Windows 10 box. Is this a good time for a Borg reference? My favorite is "I am Dyslexic of Borg. Fusistance is retile. Your ass will be laminated".
 
Creator's Update, I guess. Already installed that one when it was still on demand. Security and privacy settings needed reviewing, but other than that, zero issues. I have no idea how you guys manage to constantly bork up your computers.
 
Bjoern said:
I have no idea how you guys manage to constantly bork up your computers.
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If my computer were left alone, the way I went to great lengths to set it up, it would not get borked up at all. However, when MS and the lot whom insist on sliding in quietly and layering in code that helps Amazon, Google, Facebook and AdRoll assault my OS with AI predictive marketing and obnoxious click bait, things go south without my touching anything.

As I have stated before, I spent a lot of time and money this last winter rebuilding my system after an unauthorized intrusion moved my disk management to a remote location and borked up about two years of development work...again. :banghead:

I had nothing to do with any of the external hacks, which include MS and the above stated, that use my system as their own marketing playground. For those that think that things are otherwise and all puppies and roses...get a fricking reality check.

One Example...I've researched hundreds of examples of hacked databases.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/16/facebook-moderators-identity-exposed-terrorist-groups

I would be quite happy to have my system left to my own manipulations and control, and leave the updates for those that wish to receive them.

IMO.
 
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gman5250 said:
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I would be quite happy to have my system left to my own manipulations and control, and leave the updates for those that wish to receive them.

IMO.
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I have W7 and I decide myself which updates to download and install (usually only important security updates). Isn't that really possible with W10 anymore?
 
PHo17 said:
I have W7 and I decide myself which updates to download and install (usually only important security updates). Isn't that really possible with W10 anymore?
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I worked, at length, with a good tech friend last winter to insulate my system. New HD, new OS, new industrial strength security, TOR browser. Some other mods I won't discuss.

MS and the various other "entities" continuously run profiling algorithms that eventually find a chink in the armor. Last week I started getting the MS "update survey" pop up that cannot be shut down, blocked, ignored or dismissed. Don't forget the Win10 free popup that was actually coded to convert a no response to a yes. They dismissed that one as a programing error. Bollocks.

Finally, two days ago, while I was working MS just came in and ran the update. A prompt came up that told me I needed to re-boot, leaving zero option to refuse. As an ancillary benefit, the pop-up prevented me from saving the work I had up in 3DS Max.

It appears that MS is not allowing the end user to opt out of Win10 updates at this time. As of my last reading of the EULA, it is so stated.

At the end of the day, I originally opted in to Win10 voluntarily, so I have to cowboy up and take the consequences. If I had been able to foresee the long term negatives, I would have remained a Win7 holdout. Even at that, eventually MS will simply phase out support until the only thing left is the...errr...platform they provide.

It is one of the drawbacks of a virtual monopoly. IMO
 
Hi gman

Feel your pain man. I just built myself a new rig, posted the specs on Orbyx prior to building it and was surprised by the number of people that said I should just go with Win10 as it was the "future". When I stated my case against it, I have it on my Microsoft Surface 4 and dislike it with a passion for the exact reason you have stated here, I was again surprised at the negative response I got from some quarters. The problem I have with it is you can't control your own computer. I happen to be a bit of a rebel I suppose as I have an intense dislike with being told what to do. Got me into all kinds of strife during my 20 year Air Force career.
So I have built my new machine and have installed Win7 Professional 64bit on it. Runs beautifully and I get to pick and choose the updates. I will probably get to a point where I "disconnect" my updates from Microsoft and go it alone. That worked fine for XP for years and I have no doubt it will work for this machine as well. A good firewall, good virus software and malware client and "GOOD" surfing protocols and things tend to be OK. If not then "format C:\" and start again.

Do you have the option of pulling the plug and starting again with Win7?

New machine:
Intel I7 6700K Skylake CPU
Asus H170M mATX motherboard
16GByte DDR4 RAM
6GByte Asus GeForce GTX1060 Graphics Card
500GByte Samsung SSD
2TByte HDD

Running FSX Acceleration
Orbyx World, Vector, Europe LC, North America & Alaska LC
All Orbyx North American sceneries minus Southern California plus Australia, New Zealand and Norway.
 
The thing about security is to not go overboard with it. A router firewall, proper antivirus, tight security/privacy settings in Windows, a popup blocker (plus clearing website cookies after every browser shutdown), proactive updating habit (get major updates before they're available for automatic updating; keep MS' update release schedule in mind and then look for updates manually) and liberal use of the Mk 1.25 cranium computing device (no, do not open every e-mail attachment; learn about what you're using and installing) and you're good to go. It's all about covering chockepoints, not wide open fields.

And if someone wants to really hack/manipulate/harm you, they will find a way anyway. As long as you're not a terminal in a government network, you're nothing but an IP address among millions and therefor hardly of interest compared to all those disease-ridden, wide open devices of the XP and Vista holdouts or update deniers.
 
Regarding automatic updates, the ongoing WannaCry horror is reason enough. Patches were issued in March, the thing went wild on unpatched systems in May. Just saying.
 
Gman,

I do not understand. I believe that any Windows operating system including Windows 10 has option allowing you to activate or deactivate the automatic update function. I set mine to deactivate automatic update function for Windows 10 so that I can update if I want at my own will, not Microsoft or anybody else.

Check your Windows 10 and deactivate the automatic update option.

Regards,

Aharon
 
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