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wellis said:
Thanks for chiming in on this. The weathering on the P-70's is in fact based on photographs and paintings of black-painted night fighters in the Pacific. The deserts of North Africa were very hard on paint jobs as well, particularly with those operated by the USAAF as many were originally RAF contracts diverted to the AAF and paint jobs were hastily applied in-theater. Fading was especially severe in some cases. That said, I am sure I can come up with a compromise that will hopefully make most users happy. :)
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Yup.. This P-61 started out as a nice shiny olive drab, which you cn still se on the rudder. Now its Khaki from the fading, and thats in the US..

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Ok, since I was a dissenter concerning the weathering, I feel I should explain that this is personal preference. If those aircraft actually had that much weathering over the length of their active use. . .great. I don't care for it and it has nothing to do with whether it looks authentic or not, absolutely nothing against the artists who spend hours and hours on a single effect to get it just right. . . .I would never spend that much time doing an entire livery, let along one effect. . . . .that much weathering is just something I don't care for. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling.
 
falcon409 said:
Ok, since I was a dissenter concerning the weathering, I feel I should explain that this is personal preference. If those aircraft actually had that much weathering over the length of their active use. . .great. I don't care for it and it has nothing to do with whether it looks authentic or not, absolutely nothing against the artists who spend hours and hours on a single effect to get it just right. . . .I would never spend that much time doing an entire livery, let along one effect. . . . .that much weathering is just something I don't care for. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling.
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Falcon, I don't think any feelings are hurt on our side; understand the preferences thing as well. Thanks
 
Milton Shupe said:
Falcon, I don't think any feelings are hurt on our side; understand the preferences thing as well. Thanks
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Frankly, I prefer a plane to look showroom spiffy. What can i say?? My father was a navy man. Everything spotless and in its place.. but, clean ad pretty, betrays history, and the lives these men lead. That presents a conundrum for me, as i feel i owe my freedom and life to those men, and should honor what they went through, weather included.. So yeahh, I dont like it either, but its honest..
 
falcon409 said:
Ok, since I was a dissenter concerning the weathering, I feel I should explain that this is personal preference. If those aircraft actually had that much weathering over the length of their active use. . .great. I don't care for it and it has nothing to do with whether it looks authentic or not, absolutely nothing against the artists who spend hours and hours on a single effect to get it just right. . . .I would never spend that much time doing an entire livery, let along one effect. . . . .that much weathering is just something I don't care for. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feeling.
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No feelings hurt here at all. As you pointed out, it is a personal preference. We all have different preferences and tolerances for time spent painting. Mine is for dirty and beat up on WWII military aircraft. Again, that said, it is a small matter to adjust the paints to (again, hopefully) appeal to a wider audience. It is intended, after all, to provide the community at large with an enjoyable product. As I mentioned previously, I will moderate the weathering for the final and those that want to keep the heavily weathered versions will have them from the beta and those that don't will have the new ones in the final. :)

Edit: I should qualify that slightly - they still won't look like they just rolled out of the paint shop, however. :)
 
After spending almost 9 years in the 89th Military Airlift Wing at Andrews AFB, well, you know.....

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I can't look at any photos of the old AF1 without thinking of my first OIC in the Air Force, an excellent officer and a fine man, who made TSgt before the AF sent him to school and made him an officer. His last posting as an EM before he went to school and got his commission was at the 89th where he was one of the ground crew on these -135s. That would have been in the late 60s.
 
Here are the panel changes I made to make the 2D panels screen size independent.
Code: 
//-------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=456,447

window_size_ratio=0.600  
position=0
visible=0
ident=70
//pixel_size=456,447
window_size= 0.400, 0.419
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,  0,0,456,378

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=452,552
window_size_ratio=0.600  
position=8
visible=0
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window_size= 0.200, 0.447
window_pos= 0.000, 0.419
// pixel_size=452,552

gauge00=ROSA26!ADFRadio,  1,1,450,351
gauge01=ROSA26!VHF Comm,  1,352,450,200

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=400,690
window_size_ratio=1.000  
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visible=0
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window_pos= 0.200, 0.419

gauge00=MS_Havoc!fuelstatus,0,1000,400,690
 
SSI01, Speaking of ole AF-1, I spent seven years @the 89th as Communications Tech on 970, 26000 and 27000. I vaguely remember someone that worked on the VC-140s that went through Operation Bootstrap just as I became part of the crew. I can vaguely recall a blonde headed gentleman who was an engine man on the Jetstars. Do you happen to recall the gentleman's name? Yes, clean and spiffy was not enough, those planes had to be Sam Fox. (S F) You can imagine what that means. On special trips (Nixon going to China) there was an all hands on deck to clean and polish AF-1. We used to polish the aluminum with Met-All, then take raw cotton (bought it by the bales) and rubbed the Met-All off using flour..(Not sure if it was self-rising or not..Useable on aircraft, probably was). It'd take almost a week to wash and polish that 707. Sure glad I don't have to do the 747. Don't know what they do.. I left just as it was ordered.

Anyway, thank you for a trip down memory lane. I loved my time there.. Best assignment of my career. Happy contrails.... Terry
 
dvj said:
Hello Milton, as you have asked for some feedback, one observation is the sound set. I love everything about it except the one piece that sounds a bit like an old diesel locomotive on the exterior views. Maybe a bit more refinement here. The sound file is xrpm24. I think what I'll do is remove that file and see how it sounds.

cheers

- d
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LOL.No trains here, dvj.
Just authentic Wright R-2600's (albeit from B-25's). :)


Sound file xrpm24 is vital to the characteristic 'staccato' sound of the R-2600, particularly when heard after a flyby.
Like most of the exterior sounds, they are always at their best in 'Tower' or 'Flypast' modes, and where the effects of velocity, distance and doppler come into play.


As an illustration of this, and the sound wav. xrpm24 you mention, I hope the attached video link helps.
Please watch at 01:40 into the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg4T9Z1SDBk&t=166s

Far from perfect, one of the more 'interesting' soundsets I've had the pleasure of working on (I have less hair to prove it! :).
But I do hope it makes some folks happy, at least.
 
Thanks to all, another great project Milton. Works as advertised. Look forward to a final release. A pleasure to spend time in this one.
 
blanston12 said:
Here are the panel changes I made to make the 2D panels screen size independent.
Code: 
//-------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=456,447

window_size_ratio=0.600  
position=0
visible=0
ident=70
//pixel_size=456,447
window_size= 0.400, 0.419
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,  0,0,456,378

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=452,552
window_size_ratio=0.600  
position=8
visible=0
ident=80
window_size= 0.200, 0.447
window_pos= 0.000, 0.419
// pixel_size=452,552

gauge00=ROSA26!ADFRadio,  1,1,450,351
gauge01=ROSA26!VHF Comm,  1,352,450,200

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=400,690
window_size_ratio=1.000  
position=6
visible=0
ident=50
window_size= 0.200, 0.447
window_pos= 0.200, 0.419

gauge00=MS_Havoc!fuelstatus,0,1000,400,690
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Thank you Sir; I will check it over and incorporate if I can.
 
nigel richards said:
LOL.No trains here, dvj.
Just authentic Wright R-2600's (albeit from B-25's). :)


Sound file xrpm24 is vital to the characteristic 'staccato' sound of the R-2600, particularly when heard after a flyby.
Like most of the exterior sounds, they are always at their best in 'Tower' or 'Flypast' modes, and where the effects of velocity, distance and doppler come into play.


As an illustration of this, and the sound wav. xrpm24 you mention, I hope the attached video link helps.
Please watch at 01:40 into the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg4T9Z1SDBk&t=166s

Far from perfect, one of the more 'interesting' soundsets I've had the pleasure of working on (I have less hair to prove it! :).
But I do hope it makes some folks happy, at least.
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The sounds on this model are spectacular sir...IMHO :encouragement:
 
nigel richards said:
LOL.No trains here, dvj.
Just authentic Wright R-2600's (albeit from B-25's). :)


Sound file xrpm24 is vital to the characteristic 'staccato' sound of the R-2600, particularly when heard after a flyby.
Like most of the exterior sounds, they are always at their best in 'Tower' or 'Flypast' modes, and where the effects of velocity, distance and doppler come into play.


As an illustration of this, and the sound wav. xrpm24 you mention, I hope the attached video link helps.
Please watch at 01:40 into the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg4T9Z1SDBk&t=166s

Far from perfect, one of the more 'interesting' soundsets I've had the pleasure of working on (I have less hair to prove it! :).
But I do hope it makes some folks happy, at least.
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Thanks for the info, I'll revisit it. And I do agree, exterior does seem to be best in tower and flypast.
 
2nd Tactical Airforce Boston III's

Would be terrific to see a repaint of the Boston III's of 88 Squadron RAF, they had special nose markings (painted white) to identify those a/c equipped with smoke laying equipment and invasion markings on the wings.


Cheers

Aircanuck
 
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