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Star Trek Discovery

I seem to recall a mirror universe in the original series. But it was a dog-eat-dog, devil take the hindmost sort of place. Spock had a goatee, Uhura had a very nice little dagger, Sulu ran around the ship topless wielding a fencing foil...
Sounds like they took the concept and ran with it for Discovery. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never seen it. Probably never will. I watched TOS when it can out originally. Even went to see the first movie the day it came out at Mann's Chinese Theater in Hollywood. Got there at noon, got in for the midnight showing. Worth every minute of it :D

Just my 2 bits, whatever they're worth.
Pat☺
 
PhantomTweak said:
I seem to recall a mirror universe in the original series. But it was a dog-eat-dog, devil take the hindmost sort of place. Spock had a goatee, Uhura had a very nice little dagger, Sulu ran around the ship topless wielding a fencing foil...
Sounds like they took the concept and ran with it for Discovery. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never seen it. Probably never will. I watched TOS when it can out originally. Even went to see the first movie the day it came out at Mann's Chinese Theater in Hollywood. Got there at noon, got in for the midnight showing. Worth every minute of it :D

Just my 2 bits, whatever they're worth.
Pat☺
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If memory serves correct,
EVERY television series of Star Trek after the Original Series has had a few "Mirror Universe" episodes themselves....:mixed-smiley-010:

One of the debates/discussions amongst "Discovery" followers is whether or not the series actually takes place within the "Mirror Universe"....
 
Star Trek has explored alternate universes right from TOS. When we are discussing "The Mirror Universe" I'm working under the assumption we mean The Terran Star Empire first seen in the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" and then revisited in DS9 and Enterprise. Note that in Star Trek there are potentially an infinite number of alternate universes, as is discussed at length in the TNG episode "Parallels" where we actually see hundreds of USS Enterprises.

I don't remember ever seeing The Mirror Universe on Voyager or TNG, at least not onscreen. We do see this rise and fall of the Empire fleshed out in the books however, especially David Mack's The Sorrows of Empire. There's also a six-issue comics series, Star Trek TNG: Mirror Broken, which takes the same events in a somewhat different direction; the Empire is down, but not out, as the Cardassian/Klingon alliance was never able to conquer the core Imperial system, AKA: Earth. One of my favorite TNG novels is Diane Duane's Dark Mirror, in which a version of the Terran Empire continues to expand through the 24th Century, but they're still in trouble. The timetable for the Halkan prediction of galactic revolt is approaching and they know it. I especially like the description of the evil Enterprise-D and evil Deanna Troi is especially fierce. One of the weaknesses of TNG IMO was that the main characters are almost too morally correct in every instance. I know Gene Roddenberry was an optimist, but I also think Dr. Zaius presented a very strong argument on humanity at the end of Planet of the Apes. In Dark Mirror, the good Enterprise crew get to meet and confront their shadow selves, which I thought was very interesting thematically.

ATTN: PhantomTweak

The episode where Sulu runs around topless with the epee foil is "The Naked Time" from the first season of TOS. It doesn't involve The Mirror Universe, but it is the first time we see the Enterprise go into time warp.

JAMES
 
Eoraptor1 said:
Star Trek has explored alternate universes right from TOS. When we are discussing "The Mirror Universe" I'm working under the assumption we mean The Terran Star Empire first seen in the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" and then revisited in DS9 and Enterprise.
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James,
You are 100% spot on here! 'Discovery' is now in the 'Mirror Universe' and from a plot/writing perspective....It's INTENSE...and I'll leave it at that.

On a side note, if you're a TOS fan like I am, then I highly suggest that you watch this - that is if you haven't done so already!

 
Panther_99FS said:
James,
You are 100% spot on here! 'Discovery' is now in the 'Mirror Universe' and from a plot/writing perspective....It's INTENSE...and I'll leave it at that.

On a side note, if you're a TOS fan like I am, then I highly suggest that you watch this - that is if you haven't done so already!

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I've already got that one, Panther. I subscribe to the YouTube channel. I also found the graphic novel prequel to the JJ Reboot you wrote about in the misty past in a used bookstore in Buffalo. It really filled things in. Thanks for the h/u. What was interesting to me was how from Picard and Data's point of view in the 24th Century Spock simply disappeared into a void, while in the 23rd Spock creates a whole new continuity. I'm sure this made a lot of what I call fundamentalist nerds heads explode. I just consider the reboot films to be popcorn movies for the summer market and enjoy them for what they are: entertainment. I'm temperamentally disinclined to get wound up over them. I know Discovery is in the Mirror-verse now; I've seen some, but not all of the episodes. I can't responsibly subscribe to CBS All-Access right now, but I suspect I'll eventually have the whole season on Blu-Ray. I love Star Trek. I love bad Star Trek. "Spocks Brain" is so bad it's Awesome.

JAMES
 

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Thanks for the wallpaper, Panther. Let me know what you think of this. Don't wait too long to view it; the uploader is having trouble with CBS due to content.


JAMES
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Interesting.....A bit too in depth for me since I haven't read any of the novels...but obviously a LOT of work went into this!
 
And for those questioning how well the series is doing......:mixed-smiley-010:
 

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Well Panther,

I gotta say, this is certainly a side of you I didn't expect to see. ;)

But I suppose in lieu of posting your panzers here ...
 
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