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GAS Kinner Sportwing FSX P3D
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Spad54
SOH-CM-2025
I'm very glad to see this coming! Years ago my grandmother related to me the story of her first and only small airplane ride with my grandfather. She had been experiencing some dementia so I was surprised when her memory was so specific - she recalled the plane was a Kinner Sportster and she was terrified. She wasn't an airplane person and many airplane fans aren't even familiar with Kinner engines much less the various Kinner aircraft but her memory was so specific that the story stuck with me.
Years later after she and my grandfather passed my family sent me an album of old photos. Most surprising in that collection of photos were a number of pictures of NC14212, one of the few Kinner Sportwing B-2's produced. Sure enough my grandfather was in the cockpit of two of them. I can only guess that the Sportster my grandmother mentioned was in fact a Sportwing, NC14212. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to determine the date or location of these photos. Considering that my grandfather learned to fly in the AAF in 1945 I can only assume these were taken shortly after WWII ended. Despite a records search with the FAA I haven't been able to determine what became of NC14212 except that it seems to have been deregistered sometime before 1960 or so.
Thanks to the GAS folks for bringing this old machine back into FS skies - I can't wait!
Chris
Years later after she and my grandfather passed my family sent me an album of old photos. Most surprising in that collection of photos were a number of pictures of NC14212, one of the few Kinner Sportwing B-2's produced. Sure enough my grandfather was in the cockpit of two of them. I can only guess that the Sportster my grandmother mentioned was in fact a Sportwing, NC14212. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to determine the date or location of these photos. Considering that my grandfather learned to fly in the AAF in 1945 I can only assume these were taken shortly after WWII ended. Despite a records search with the FAA I haven't been able to determine what became of NC14212 except that it seems to have been deregistered sometime before 1960 or so.
Thanks to the GAS folks for bringing this old machine back into FS skies - I can't wait!
Chris
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Josh Patterson
SOH-CM-2023
This is a nice looking aircraft but boy does that windscreen look like an afterthought! It would've looked even better with a windscreen that instead of curving forward at the bottom just came down to the cockpit rail. Then it could have had a sliding hood (with maybe just a slight bulge to it for headroom) for all weather comfort. (Or just leave it open on the nice days!) Well, it is what it was and I guess I'll have to find room for it in the hangar over by the Aeronca LC and Pasped Skylark!
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Getting close to completing our latest project. There is an outside chance that there will be a version compiled for MSFS (more to come on that)
WOW - she looks very sleek and smooth.
Hello Spad and all, long time no see.
I've been missing this place for a long while - good to see the new GAS aircraft co. products rolling off the assembly line ! Also happy to hear you might be processing them for the new 2020 sim!
I finally have a new rig after the ol' hoss went down last year. I see that some of the GAS FSX planes have been migrated with some success but would love to see dedicated 2020 models too.
If you still need some help with testing (for the new sim only at this point) please let me know.
Spad54
SOH-CM-2025
GAS MSFS Conversions
We have a team member working with a developer working on a conversion program. We've had some success with developing compatible models with the following exceptions. The configuration manager is not compatible and until a solution is developed will not be in a converted model. Accessing switched and mouse manipulated controls is not yet possible but from my understanding after reading the 2020 forum this may be a problem that M$ is working on a global solution. The good news is that binding the functions to the keyboard works fine. Good new also on the gauges. We only use xml coded gauges and so in all of our a/c that we will be offering this wont be a problem. When we feel that we have progressed to a marketable and tested product they will only be offered through our website so that we can maintain a list of customers to facilitate updates to purchased models as they may be come available. As for whether or not customers who purchased models for FSX receiving a free upgrade, that unfortunately is not in the plans for the roll out. That said because of some limited functionality (no configuration manager and the issue with mouse control in the VC) pricing for the models will reflect that making the cost less that the P3D/FSX versions. How much is yet to be determined until we begin conversion is earnest, following the release of the Kinner. Rest assured if we cant bring out a model that we'd want to fly in MSFS then we'll walk away completely and remain with P3D and FSX for as long as there is a market.
We have a team member working with a developer working on a conversion program. We've had some success with developing compatible models with the following exceptions. The configuration manager is not compatible and until a solution is developed will not be in a converted model. Accessing switched and mouse manipulated controls is not yet possible but from my understanding after reading the 2020 forum this may be a problem that M$ is working on a global solution. The good news is that binding the functions to the keyboard works fine. Good new also on the gauges. We only use xml coded gauges and so in all of our a/c that we will be offering this wont be a problem. When we feel that we have progressed to a marketable and tested product they will only be offered through our website so that we can maintain a list of customers to facilitate updates to purchased models as they may be come available. As for whether or not customers who purchased models for FSX receiving a free upgrade, that unfortunately is not in the plans for the roll out. That said because of some limited functionality (no configuration manager and the issue with mouse control in the VC) pricing for the models will reflect that making the cost less that the P3D/FSX versions. How much is yet to be determined until we begin conversion is earnest, following the release of the Kinner. Rest assured if we cant bring out a model that we'd want to fly in MSFS then we'll walk away completely and remain with P3D and FSX for as long as there is a market.
Spad54
SOH-CM-2025
Hey Bud! Glad to see you back. I'll email you if and when we are far enough along for testing. Best
binarkansas
SOH-CM-2022
I'm anxiously awaiting the release of the Kinner Sportwing. I've always thought it was a pretty little thing. Also, I'd like to thank you for what seems a notice that you do intend to stay with FSX/P3d, irregardless of the successful inclusion of models for MSFS. I'm never the first to overwhelmingly jump on the newest and greatest bandwagon. FSX does about everything I've ever wanted in a flight sim. Beautiful models and great scenery such as ORBX.
Thanks for all the great "golden age" models your company produces.
Barry
TeiscoDelRay
Life Time CM
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Thank You, Skipper - I'm happy to be of service!
Josh Patterson
SOH-CM-2023
Hard to tell with the sun in my eyes but this paint job looks like a great hangar companion for the Hall Bulldog!
