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New Star Trek Movie

Eoraptor1 said:
Dain, I do understand some of your trepidation, but you let Kirk slide on being a ho. The character was always very promiscuous; neck and neck with 007, and there were always plenty of scantily clad sex kittens bouncing around. He should really have children all over the galaxy. Interesting tidbit: According to Gene Roddenberry, in the original treatment for Star Trek the crew was 50/50 male/female, and there were women in command positions; the network poo-pooed the crew ratio because the audience would think "there was a lot of fooling around up there" and simply wouldn't believe men taking orders from women....
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That was called, "The Sixties", man! :cool: :icon_lol:

Yes I know the network execs were aghast when the future Mrs. Roddenberry was Captain Pike's "Number One" in the Pilot. It's been rumored by J.J. Abrahms there will be no references to Captains Pike or April.

I have never claimed what Kirk was doing was okay, and I think the classic line by Dr. McCoy in "The Undiscovered Country", "What is it with you anyway?" pretty much sums it up. :costumes:

I definitely agree Kirk was Roddenberry's "alter-ego" at the time. Ian Fleming once admitted "James Bond" was his alter ego, and he actually seemed to live a bit like Bond in the bedroom it has been said. I always felt like Picard was the "later" Roddenberry, wiser and a bit older in life. More like the captain of a sailing ship who's been doing it for a while.
 
Panther_99FS said:
One thing that DOES bother me is that the bridge is entirely TOO MODERN! :banghead::isadizzy::banghead:


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Exactly. :isadizzy: I think that pic says it all.... :kilroy:

Looks like they are working out of a Las Vegas hotel... :costumes:
 
Dain Arns said:
That was called, "The Sixties", man! :cool: :icon_lol:

Yes I know the network execs were aghast when the future Mrs. Roddenberry was Captain Pike's "Number One" in the Pilot. It's been rumored by J.J. Abrahms there will be no references to Captains Pike or April.

I have never claimed what Kirk was doing was okay, and I think the classic line by Dr. McCoy in "The Undiscovered Country", "What is it with you anyway?" pretty much sums it up. :costumes:

I definitely agree Kirk was Roddenberry's "alter-ego" at the time. Ian Fleming once admitted "James Bond" was his alter ego, and he actually seemed to live a bit like Bond in the bedroom it has been said. I always felt like Picard was the "later" Roddenberry, wiser and a bit older in life. More like the captain of a sailing ship who's been doing it for a while.
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No hate, Dain. I know exactly what you mean; a lot of these "re-imaginings" suck. I'm willing to reserve judgement, though; I remember how many of my brother nerds were up in arms about Battlestar Galactica, tearing their hair out, crying blasphemy as thought they were Jeremiah himself. Now, I personally think the re-imagined show is the equal, in purely dramatic terms, to any show currently on televison, and that includes the critic's darlings like Mad Men, which is also full of sex. We'll see, is all I'm saying. I also know what you mean about the battering ram trailers, but the studios only have a few minutes to grab your attention, and let's face it, sex sells. When Phoebe Cates came out of the pool in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, she had my COMPLETE attention. I can't even listen to the Cars anymore without coming to attention.

JAMES

PS Panther, I was watching Alien yesterday, and noticed how all the Nostromo's science fiction supercomputers with their old-school CRT monitors seemed, well, quaint... I have a very good friend who doesn't seem to have anything good to say about Sigorney Weaver; but she fails to realize what Lt. Ripley means to a nerd.
 
I've been a fan since 1966 (yes I was only 4), and the new movie looks fine so far. My biggest complaint is the fact that Enterprise is being assembled in the San Fransisco navy Yard instead of orbit. My second biggest worry is that in the apparent fight between Kirk and Spock there doesn't appear to be a loose duranium rod around... and we all know Kirk isn't supposed to fight without a loose duranium rod available to turn the tide of battle!

I have no problem with a younger, wilder, Kirk being less gentlemanly when he gets the girl. The redesign of Enterprise, including the bridge, looks fine. The original was built in the 60's and only works in the mind of the original fans. The re-imagined version looks more like something that could develop into the bridge of Enterprise-A or D. By comparison, and objectively, the original looks like something that some film students put together from scrap while filming a school project.

There are a few formulaic requirements that must be met:

1. Kirk gets the girl... and then chooses Enterprise instead.
2. Spock struggles with his humanity
3. A nameless red-shirted ensign dies a tragic, senseless death which causes Kirk angst.
4. Enterprise exceeds design specifications to save the crew.
5. McCoy needles Spock about being Vulcan.
6. Thinly veiled social commentary and examination of current events form the backbone of the storyline.
 
I'm a huge fan of the original series (I don't even like the remastered versions), but this looks like crap. Apparently in the future, all our armed forces (re the Federation), are 19yr old ex-swimsuit & catalog models. Gosh, why not work the Jonas Brothers or Miley Cyrus into the movie? Maybe they predicted the future correctly in LOGANS RUN. You do get sent to carousel when you turn 30!
 
You'da' thunk that after a few missions, the "red shirts" would've held a revolt - refusing to beam down to the surface...:d
 
Moses03 said:
Apparently in the future, all our armed forces (re the Federation), are 19yr old ex-swimsuit & catalog models.
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True and if Kirk is a CAPTAIN, boy he sure is young....

On the other hand, maybe everyone started out in COMMAND positions on a starship as Ensigns...:icon_lol:
 
Moses03 said:
Apparently in the future, all our armed forces (re the Federation), are 19yr old ex-swimsuit & catalog models. Gosh, why not work the Jonas Brothers or Miley Cyrus into the movie? Maybe they predicted the future correctly in LOGANS RUN. You do get sent to carousel when you turn 30!
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That's A LOT of programming, Moses. I watched about five minutes of The Hills with one of my teenaged cousins and found it so completely vacuous thought I was on dramamine...

JAMES
 
Dang!!

I didnt see Trailer number 2!

Had to watch it about 5 times. Then watched it over by dragging the mouse slider, taking screenshots.

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its more like Star Wars 'pace' and high details that Lucas uses in quick glimpses but done with Star Trek.

Impressed!
 
Eoraptor1 said:
No hate, Dain. I know exactly what you mean; a lot of these "re-imaginings" suck. I'm willing to reserve judgement, though; I remember how many of my brother nerds were up in arms about Battlestar Galactica, tearing their hair out, crying blasphemy as thought they were Jeremiah himself. Now, I personally think the re-imagined show is the equal, in purely dramatic terms, to any show currently on televison, and that includes the critic's darlings like Mad Men, which is also full of sex. We'll see, is all I'm saying. I also know what you mean about the battering ram trailers, but the studios only have a few minutes to grab your attention, and let's face it, sex sells. When Phoebe Cates came out of the pool in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, she had my COMPLETE attention. I can't even listen to the Cars anymore without coming to attention.
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Battlestar Galactica, agreed. One where they got it right. But look at the reason, good writing.

Sorry, but just to throw in sex to sell a movie. Its too easy, too cliche'. Its wrong.
Of course there was never anything wrong about Phoebe Cates in Fast Times... :costumes:
(Forgive me, Jesus)
 
DaveKDEN said:
Rememer, the story line has something to do with time travel (again). As such, I don't think that bridge is supposed to be that of the original series Enterprise.
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Uh huh. Maybe Patrick Duffy will wake up in the shower at the end... :costumes:
 
McD, the trailers Gdavis linked to are for HD. Click on the bottom of that page... "Visit The Official Website" and you will see the 2nd Trailer start. No need to install any new QuickTime files. :d

This s=is a movie I've got to see, even if the Bridge looks too modern. :costumes:

Quantum of Solice get a bad review but it make over 70 millin the fist weekend it was out. So much for reviews.... I have read or heard a review I could trust. ;)

And now, back to your regularly scheduled replies. :ernae:
 
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