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2017 Indy 500

The High-Speed, 2.5 Mile "Learning Curve!" The Brickyard is not for the faint of heart and is extremely unforgiving. Jovy Marcelo was killed there 25 years ago today practicing for his first Indy 500.
 
Would love to see Alonso do something other than F1. One of the best drivers out there. He can take a last place car and put it in the points.
 
Alexander Rossi is confidant he will win it again this year,,ill root for him,,,hometown boy and all...though theyve changed his hometown on broadcasts from Auburn to Grass Valley,but he grew up in a place called Lake of the Pines,which is north of me about 10 miles and which is 20 miles shy of grass valley....heheheh
 
Nigel Mansell gave it his everything his rookie year at the Speedway. He was simply beat by two of the Greatest men to turn the wheel of an IndyCar during that era. Nobody had the finesse of Arie Luyendyk and his pass of Mansell on the outside of that last restart was one for the ages! Arie showed his skill as he used every bit of his ability and what he had in his car to put the pass on Nigel. NOBODY passes on the outside of Turn 1 at Indy!! Emo had the car at the end and drove it home for his 2nd 500 win. Was an incredible finish.


I was at Milwaukee for the very next race and saw Nigel win his first oval race. It was exciting and I will never forget it! Nigel Mansell was such a talent, such a class act, and an incredible addition to CART for the time he was there. I respected the h*ll out of him!!!
 
One of my favorites was when Danny Sullivan spun out, but didn't hit the wall. Went back into the pits, got fresh tires, came back out and passed Mario for the win. He had the car that year!
 
Alonso P4 on 'Fast Friday'
[h=2]Indy 500 Friday Practice Timesheet[/h]
PositionDriverTeamEngineSpeed (mph)Time (secs)
1.Sebastian BourdaisDale Coyne RacingHonda233.11638.7064
2.Ryan Hunter-ReayAndretti AutosportHonda232.13238.7711
3.Takuma SatoAndretti AutosportHonda231.96938.7983
4.Fernando AlonsoMcLaren Honda AndrettiHonda231.82738.8220
5.Juan Pablo MontoyaTeam PenskeChevrolet231.68238.8463
6.James HinchcliffeSchmidt Peterson MotorsportsHonda231.51738.8740
7.Mikhail AleshinSchmidt Peterson MotorsportsHonda231.44738.8858
8.Jay HowardSchmidt Peterson MotorsportsHonda231.255 38.9181
9.Ed JonesDale Coyne RacingHonda231.25238.9185
10.Alexander RossiAndretti Herta AutosportHonda231.19138.9288
11.Tony KanaanChip Ganassi RacingHonda231.05438.9519
12.Scott DixonChip Ganassi RacingHonda231.01638.9584
13.Helio CastronevesTeam PenskeChevrolet230.98238.9640
14.Oriol ServiaRahal Letterman Lanigan RacingHonda230.88738.9801
15.Marco AndrettiAndretti AutosportHonda230.76939.0000
16.Will PowerTeam PenskeChevrolet230.71739.0088
17.Ed CarpenterEd Carpenter RacingChevrolet230.71239.0097
18.Max ChiltonChip Ganassi RacingHonda230.63639.0225
19.JR HildebrandEd Carpenter RacingChevrolet230.62739.0241
20.Charlie KimballChip Ganassi RacingHonda230.33539.0735
21.Pippa MannDale Coyne RacingHonda230.10339.1130
22.Graham RahalRahal Letterman Lanigan RacingHonda230.00739.1292
23.Simon PagenaudTeam PenskeChevrolet229.97339.1350
24.Josef NewgardenTeam PenskeChevrolet228.62439.3660
25.Jack HarveyMichael Shank Racing with Andretti AutosportHonda228.42639.4001
26.Sage KaramDreyer & Reinbold RacingChevrolet228.15939.4462
27.Carlos MunozA. J. Foyt EnterprisesChevrolet227.95639.4813
28.Conor DalyA. J. Foyt EnterprisesChevrolet227.22539.6083
29.Gabby ChavesHarding RacingChevrolet227.16839.6182
30.Zach VeachA. J. Foyt EnterprisesChevrolet227.08239.6333
31.Sebastian SaavedraJuncos RacingChevrolet226.22439.7835
32.Spencer PigotJuncos RacingChevrolet226.17039.7931
33.Buddy LazierLazier Racing PartnersHonda219.64040.9761







 
Alonso has a distinct chance for the pole!

The fastest nine qualifiers on Saturday, and therefore those who will compete for the Verizon P1 Award on Sunday are as follows:
1) Ed Carpenter - 230.468 mph
2) Takuma Sato - 230.382 mph
3) Scott Dixon - 230.333 mph
4) JR Hildebrand - 230.205 mph
5) Alexander Rossi - 230.148 mph
6) Will Power - 230.072 mph
7) Fernando Alonso - 230.034 mph
8) Tony Kanaan - 230.007 mph
9) Marco Andretti - 229.924 mph
 
And unfortunately Sebastian Bourdais has a fractured pelvis (among other injuries) after a really ugly shunt!
:dejection:
 
Was a wicked crash. The Safer Barrier did its job though. I can't help but think that if that was just the concrete wall, the result would have been like Gordon Smiley's accident there in '82. That and the fact that the nose cones on these monocoque racing tubs are 1,000 times better and more protective during a head on impact than they were even 20 years ago. I suppose the impact forces transferred through the belts though and shattered Sebastian's pelvis. That happened to a guy I knew who had an airplane accident. Lap belt shattered his pelvis in the sudden stop.
 
Snip. Sebastien Bourdais will miss the remainder of the 2017 Indycar season after his massive crash in qualifying yesterday for the Indy 500.
The Frenchman was on the third of his four-lap quali attempt when his Dale Coyne Racing-entered Dallara got loose through Turn 2, sending Bourdais into the wall at high speed
The 38-year-old sustained injury to his pelvis and right hip but was successfully operated on at Indianapolis' Methodist Hospital.
"That was great news," team owner Dale Coyne told Motorpsort.com, "because they had expected it to involve two separate operations.
"He’s a strong guy, very fit. That helps. IndyCar flew Claire [Bourdais’ wife] in last night, so that was great.
"Sebastien came out of surgery at 10.40, and about 20 minutes later his surgeon came down and told us it had gone really well."
Bourdais' impact was massive but Coyne was quick to underline the strength of the Dallara chassis.
"It’s not so long ago that a hit like that would have been fatal," he said.
"It was a 118G hit, and yet the car did its job. There was no intrusion from the components, and the panel that was added to the car when Justin [Wilson] had his hit in Fontana [in 2013] and broke his pelvis did what it was supposed to do and gave the seat more of chance to absorb a lot of energy."
Coyne has named Australian racer James Davison as Bourdais' replacement in the #18 car, but it's not sure yet if the Aussie, who has just four Indycar starts under his belt, two of which were at the Indy 500, will keep the seat for the remainder of the Indycar season while the Frenchman is on the mend.
"We’re told he’s going to be six to eight weeks on crutches and then there’s rehab. So yeah, that’s it for the season.
"It’s sad for Sebastien that it came when we were looking really good. I mean, I thought he was the class of the field here all week.
"We were strong in traffic in practice, and we were superquick without a tow, as well.
Bourdais was on the verge of securing the fastest average speed of the day before the mishap.
"Those 231mph laps were amazing," Coyne added.
"He was at 239mph on the straights, and the lap time was over 1mph more than anyone else had done. We were looking really good for taking pole today.
"But when we spoke before surgery, he remembered everything. He said the car had wiggled a bit in Turn 1 so he knew he was on the limit and then he just drove it in a bit too hard in 2." Snip.
 
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Fifth fastest, starting on second row. Out-bloody-standing!
:triumphant:
 
I saw it and immediately knew it was bad....that was not the type of angle to hit the wall at...

Apparently it is best to let the car go in situations like this, so you will hit the wall with the back of the car first. Over correct the slide and the nose will go in first.
But of course for the driver it is a split second decision to make...
 
It should be a really good race, and there is no doubt your boy Alonso is a serious contender at the Speedway. If he can safely work traffic at speed for 500 miles he should be right there at the end. (Minus the Andretti Curse of course!) I can't help but wonder if those birds he hit during his first practice may have been a "Sign??" I'm going to put my money on Scott Carpenter this year. American Owner Driver. My sentimental favorite is always Buddy Lazier. The guy that for but a handful of years was able to drive a legitimate, competitive car to showcase his skill and grit as a driver. Lets hear it for the "Old Guy!"
 
Apparently it is best to let the car go in situations like this, so you will hit the wall with the back of the car first. Over correct the slide and the nose will go in first.
But of course for the driver it is a split second decision to make...

In 1982 I remember seeing Gordon Smiley, a very respected road racer in assorted open wheelers and (IIRC) an Indy 'rookie' have one of the most violent accidents I have ever witnessed.
Again, IIRC he was running a 'Ground effects' March, the car slid sideways out of Turn 3 and being an experienced road racer he turned into the skid, which sadly was not the right action to take on an oval.
Of course he caught it but as soon as it gained traction the car slammed straight into the wall at almost 90 degrees!
The impact was such that the March literally 'vapourised'.
At times instinctive actions are the wrong actions.
:dizzy:

Correction: 1982 was his third 500 (I must have CRAFT syndrome!) so ignore the 'rookie' tag.
 
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