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Czech Avia B-534.IV biplane WWII fighter for Fs9

Hi Papi,

Your first question can't be answered by me. Perhaps you should ask those who do. But when you ask this question in relation with my repaints for the Avia I can explain you what choices I made.

According to what I have been reading, most Avias used by the Germans originally kept their original colours. Which sounds logical, to me as the Germans did this originally with most captured Dutch aircraft as well. Also the presence of the original Avia logo at the tail is in my opinion clear evidence the aircraft is still in its original colours. For "White 182" it was specifically mentioned that it had been repainted in RLM colours (Although I have my doubts). Therefore I took RLM71 as the top colour and RLM65 for the lower surfaces. As the photograph clearly showed that the bottom of the top wing was still dark, I painted this RLM71 as well.
For RLM65 I use the RGB values form the now disappeared Simmerspaintshop. Which are RGB 183/198/205 for aircraft painted prior to 1942 and RGB 148/158/157 for aircraft painted after this date.

As the Avias were painted matted aluminium dope at the lower surfaces I used either RLM01 Silber or RLM03 Silber grau in the repaints. As I couldn't find a reliable source for the RGB values of the Czechoslovakian version of Khaki, I used the very dark brownish green version of khaki we Dutch used on our aircraft prior to WWII. This shade has less blue in it compared with RLM71

The lower surfaces. which where painted matted silver on the Avia. were outlined (or "kontura" in Czech) with same colour of the upper surfaces. So I hope this explains why most of my Avia repaints have greyish lower surfaces and the dark khaki edges.

The scenery I use in my screenshots is normally done by Ian Elliott. I think I used the Achmer scenery for the screenshot with the Opel Blitz trucks, but it could also have been Westerland-Sylt (which is nearly Denmark :biggrin-new:). From "white 3" I have taken some screenshots at Werneuchen, which was originally done by Frithjof Koch, Matthias Ewald, Volker Loew, but was turned into a genuine WWII airfield by our own Shessi.
I'm not aware of any WWII scenery in Denmark. There could have been a WWII version of Fliegerhorst Grove by a group called Virtual German Air Force, but the links are all dead now.

Cheers,
Huub
 
German colors

Good evening Huub

wow what a precise reply, thank you a lot
for the first time I got indications for the colors "translated" to RGB
It was difficult to find the good rgb values.
Can you also give advices for the other german used colors?
I' m realy glad for your answer.
Denmark would so an interesting field to look on for Ian lol.
Ah flightsim is a real passion
Yours
Papi
 
Hi Papi,

Before Arjan van de Logt closed his Simmerspaintshop web-site I copied his colour swatches. As we normally base our colour shades on poor quality black and white pictures and contradicting information from manufactures, I am very reluctant to say the information is absolutely correct. Arjan's main objective was that all aircraft in a game like IL2 at least had the same shades and was not entirely to be 100% correct. But at least he took time and effort to do the required research to come to this overview. And even today the RLM65 looks quite different when the paint is made by Humbrol, Tamiya, Xtracolor, Revell or Vallejo.......

There is a link below, where you can find these swatches. Just unzip in a folder and you can use the urls to open the colour swatch from the specific country.

Cheers,
Huub

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b94puz4ggc8770a/Colour swatches.zip?dl=0
 
We have also distributed these charts on FSDeveloper, in the wiki.
At least it's a public source, so that's the big advantage of it, instead of everyone finding out their own codes.
 
Haha! The old sims look so cute, but yet, quite good.
Somewhere I read this: your brain is trying its best to see that something is not real-life. The more realistic it looks, the more inaccurate details will surface. That would vote for a less realistic sim, right? :engel016:
 
The repaint "White 3"from the "Brandenburger-Briest Fliegerlehrerschule" should be available in the library now.

Cheers,
Huub

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Thank you Shessi and Chris for this to me unknown new aircraft.
And also thanks to Huub and Papi for the repaints and the paint kit.
I did not have the time and leisure yet to install and fly it.
But seeing the screenshots this will definitely become a permanent member of my warbird hangar.
 
Thanks Hartwig, the Avia is definitely nice canvas to paint!

The next one is one Pete (Motormouse) was asking about. Its an aircraft from 7/LLG1, which was used to tow DFS230 gliders at the Eastern front. (LLG= Luftlandegeschwader/Airborne squadron) most likely during the winter of 1941/1942. The aircraft was equipped with a towing gear and an external tank.

The real one after an unfortunate manoeuvre...

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And the virtual one........

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Almost finished.....

Cheers,
Huub
 
Once again, I have to express my thanks for everyone involved, with the model and the skins... this has been a treat, wonderful work! I can also happily add that with one tweak to the materials with mdlmat, she does just fine in FSX-Acceleration.

Thanks, Mike Z.
 
Thanks for your nice words Mike, the Avia in German winter livery should be available in the library now. Perhaps you can ask Shessi/Chris whether you can upload the tweaked model file?

Cheers,
Huub

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Firstly Huub, many thanks for all your efforts with the paint, great stuff, much appreciated. Chris also appreciates what you're doing and the ongoing interest.

And..actually Mike...I'll PM you about this.

Cheers

Shessi
 
Loving this Avia so much, i decided to knock up a home. Kbley, just east of Prague, its a best guess scenery, just retro'd the Afcad and used existing librarys, if you have all my other stuff, the objects should show fine, the control tower is from Bordeaux-Merignac FS9.zip, im not making any claims for accuracy, just wanted somewhere to fly from.

There's also a traffic file, and the Avia performs rather well for Ai, but you need Huubs "
Avia B.534 IV Czechoslovakian Air Force 1938"

Not bad for an hours work
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Firstly Huub, many thanks for all your efforts with the paint, great stuff, much appreciated. Chris also appreciates what you're doing and the ongoing interest.

And..actually Mike...I'll PM you about this.

Cheers

Shessi


No reason to thank me Shessi, it's great to have such a nice model to put some colours on. You know we always appreciate your work, but when you speak to Chris please thank him for the great gifts he still has for us. Always very much appreciated, but not all models offer as many repaint options as this little Avia. (And multiple engined aircraft nearly always are too complex to fly for a simple guy like me :biggrin-new:)

Loving this Avia so much, i decided to knock up a home. Kbley, just east of Prague, its a best guess scenery, just retro'd the Afcad and used existing librarys, if you have all my other stuff, the objects should show fine, the control tower is from Bordeaux-Merignac FS9.zip, im not making any claims for accuracy, just wanted somewhere to fly from.

There's also a traffic file, and the Avia performs rather well for Ai, but you need Huubs "
Avia B.534 IV Czechoslovakian Air Force 1938"

Not bad for an hours work
:biggrin-new:

Thanks Ian! And also for the free advertising for my repaint :biggrin-new:

Cheers,
Huub
 
When the Germans invaded Czechoslovakia in 1938, a Czech corporal Janota flew to Italy in the Avia B-534 with the registration D-10. Most likely the aircraft was returned to Czechoslovakia and handed over to the Germans, but what if the Italians would have kept the aircraft. It might have ended up looking like this!

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Still some minor things to change, but it will be made available tomorrow.

Cheers,
Huub
 
Looks like a plane that'd be seen in the "continuation" Porco Rosso movie......just add a hot looking centre-line float with wing tippers.
 
And red isn't very uncommon on Italian aircraft!

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(Don't worry Shessi, I will bring this track back on track soon :biggrin-new:)

Cheers,
Huub
 
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