Dr. House meets Smokey The Bear
- Thread starter srgalahad
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MM
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John, to reach U72 with FSGenesis FS9 mesh I found it necessary to drop the autogen trees which just allows one to scrape over a low point on one intervening ridge... :redf:
(With full trees, I managed to get through at 8470ft--too close to replicate with any confidence. Landed with pine needles lodged in the gear.:isadizzy
(With full trees, I managed to get through at 8470ft--too close to replicate with any confidence. Landed with pine needles lodged in the gear.:isadizzy
I thought the 02ID-13ID leg had a 9500 limit?What did the "9500 ***" mean?
Vicious
You got that right Limit on 02ID - 13ID Leg is 9500 not 9000
I launch the first Official Protest and Call Shinaniganins All those who agree....
Must be an over site on the part of SG he's just forgetting his own rules. :d
srgalahad
Charter Member 2022
Oopsie
Actually, I didn't forget them Dave. I made an error in transferring the data from the spreadsheet to the written rule in Post #2 (pasting from Word/Excel doesn't always go smoothly in here)
The cap altitudes got slipped in the transfer.. 4 legs of 8500, the one at 9500, one at 9000 and 4 at 8500 is the sequence - so, the correct "high" legs are:
13ID 0U1 15.4 9500 ft ASL
0U1 U72 34.5 9000 ft ASL
ALL OTHERS ARE 8500 ASL MAX.
when I checked the times I was going by my original sheet as shown above.
Now Vicious did indeed work from the initial posted data so I have to bite the bullet and let his leg stand as flown and the total reverts to his posted 1:02:++ which puts him in Dr. House's chair with some pain killers.
So far! (Wanna refly the 4th leg at 8500 and see how you do? - just for fun)
I'll recheck the others in a few minutes and make the appropriate comments. Since I'm NOT keeping a running tally you'll have to make your own notes on the bathroom wall. (Rules will be edited to show the correction for those yet to fly)
Someone had better get a fast plane going though -- I think an under-one-hour time is possible...
Rob
Actually, I didn't forget them Dave. I made an error in transferring the data from the spreadsheet to the written rule in Post #2 (pasting from Word/Excel doesn't always go smoothly in here)
The cap altitudes got slipped in the transfer.. 4 legs of 8500, the one at 9500, one at 9000 and 4 at 8500 is the sequence - so, the correct "high" legs are:
13ID 0U1 15.4 9500 ft ASL
0U1 U72 34.5 9000 ft ASL
ALL OTHERS ARE 8500 ASL MAX.
when I checked the times I was going by my original sheet as shown above.
Now Vicious did indeed work from the initial posted data so I have to bite the bullet and let his leg stand as flown and the total reverts to his posted 1:02:++ which puts him in Dr. House's chair with some pain killers.
So far! (Wanna refly the 4th leg at 8500 and see how you do? - just for fun)I'll recheck the others in a few minutes and make the appropriate comments. Since I'm NOT keeping a running tally you'll have to make your own notes on the bathroom wall. (Rules will be edited to show the correction for those yet to fly)
Someone had better get a fast plane going though -- I think an under-one-hour time is possible...
Rob
srgalahad
Charter Member 2022
Since I can't edit a post that old...
REVISED, EDITED AND CORRECTED Things you need to know:
The entire area is capped due to a Homeland Security exercise overhead (10,000 ASL and above) so be careful of Altimeter Settings and altitudes! (Winds and mountainous terrain can change altimeter settings significantly enroute) A Ten (10) Minute penalty is applied to any leg that exceeds the listed Max Enroute Altitude as shown on the Duenna. The caps have been tested but do NOT guarantee terrain clearance for a direct route.
Destination Airport
FROM -- TO -- Distance -- ELEV -- RWY - SURFACE -- Max Enroute Altitude
KMYL -- 0U0 --28.5 ----- 6662 -- 16/34 - 4000x100 Grs -- 8500 ft ASL
0U0 --- ID86 --21.5 ----- 5489 -- NE/SW 1800x50 Dt ---- 8500 ft ASL
ID86 -- 02ID --21.0 ----- 5634 -- NE/SW 2000x100 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
02ID -- 13ID --21.7 ----- 6400 -- N/S -- 1600x100 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
13ID -- 0U1 -- 15.4 ----- 4831 -- 02/20 - 2850x135 Grs -- 9500 ft ASL ***
0U1 -- U72 --- 34.5 ----- 4742 -- 04/22 - 2500x75 Grs --- 9000 ft ASL ***
U72 -- ID67 -- 13.1 ----- 4200 -- 13/31 - 1100x75 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
ID67 -- ID41 -- 23.1 ----- 6539 -- 06/24 - 2450x175 Grav - 8500 ft ASL
ID41 -- 24K -- 17.6 ----- 3982 --- 17/35 - 1500x150 Grs -- 8500 ft ASL
24K -- KMYL -- 16.6 ---- 5021 --- 16/34 - 6107x75 Asp ---8500 ft ASL
TOTAL 213.0nm
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Sorry for the confusion gang :redf:
Rob
REVISED, EDITED AND CORRECTED Things you need to know:
The entire area is capped due to a Homeland Security exercise overhead (10,000 ASL and above) so be careful of Altimeter Settings and altitudes! (Winds and mountainous terrain can change altimeter settings significantly enroute) A Ten (10) Minute penalty is applied to any leg that exceeds the listed Max Enroute Altitude as shown on the Duenna. The caps have been tested but do NOT guarantee terrain clearance for a direct route.
Destination Airport
FROM -- TO -- Distance -- ELEV -- RWY - SURFACE -- Max Enroute Altitude
KMYL -- 0U0 --28.5 ----- 6662 -- 16/34 - 4000x100 Grs -- 8500 ft ASL
0U0 --- ID86 --21.5 ----- 5489 -- NE/SW 1800x50 Dt ---- 8500 ft ASL
ID86 -- 02ID --21.0 ----- 5634 -- NE/SW 2000x100 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
02ID -- 13ID --21.7 ----- 6400 -- N/S -- 1600x100 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
13ID -- 0U1 -- 15.4 ----- 4831 -- 02/20 - 2850x135 Grs -- 9500 ft ASL ***
0U1 -- U72 --- 34.5 ----- 4742 -- 04/22 - 2500x75 Grs --- 9000 ft ASL ***
U72 -- ID67 -- 13.1 ----- 4200 -- 13/31 - 1100x75 Grs --- 8500 ft ASL
ID67 -- ID41 -- 23.1 ----- 6539 -- 06/24 - 2450x175 Grav - 8500 ft ASL
ID41 -- 24K -- 17.6 ----- 3982 --- 17/35 - 1500x150 Grs -- 8500 ft ASL
24K -- KMYL -- 16.6 ---- 5021 --- 16/34 - 6107x75 Asp ---8500 ft ASL
TOTAL 213.0nm
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Sorry for the confusion gang :redf:
Rob
Vicious - Leg 4 reflight
This is my leg 4 reflight at the correct altitude. I actually picked up a few seconds, so it doesn't appear that I had any real benefit from the higher altitude limit. I could probably make up some more time on legs 5 and 6 at the higher limits now set, but I don't think it will matter much. I know I left more than a few minutes on the course and there's faster runs yet to come. :d
Vicious
This is my leg 4 reflight at the correct altitude. I actually picked up a few seconds, so it doesn't appear that I had any real benefit from the higher altitude limit. I could probably make up some more time on legs 5 and 6 at the higher limits now set, but I don't think it will matter much. I know I left more than a few minutes on the course and there's faster runs yet to come. :d
Vicious
Well that solves my problem.
Expect a communique' from Dewey, Cheatum and Howe for "mental anguish" to the client. :d
srgalahad
Charter Member 2022
What do you call a dozen lawyers at the bottom of the bay?
Mouse-over here --->> A small but good start
Rob
We have been working for two days to find a way over that range
The best I could do with a Default FS9 Scenery was 8600 ft
All my attempts have been in FSX....non of them were pretty! :isadizzy:
I tried it in the MV-22 Osprey last night but it would appear that it has been so long since I last flew it that I have actually forgotten how to do it! Every time I tried to transition from vertical to horizontal flight I fell out of the sky like a huge brick!
srgalahad
Charter Member 2022
Beercat run
Well, I had to try it... and finally made it. However, as I've contended for some time, running very fast airplane on short hops does NOT give much of an advantage. I almost broke the 60 minute mark and probably lost that time on the last leg with a long floater of a landing.
It was fun, scary and there were a dozen practice legs in Bearcats #1 thru #15 that are now available for pickup by the MM Aerial Salvage Corp. Hours of practice to pick best approaches only gained me 2.5 minutes over the Turbo Commander. Rating: Not worth the effort except to see the trees flash by at 350 kts:d
The Bearcat is:
- difficult to slow down (time lost by pullling power sooner)
- VERY difficult to handle just above stall to get into the tight places
- lousy brakes! - even lifting flaps doesn't give a lot of braking action on grass/gravel strips
+ is blessed with huge amounts of power to get airborne and out of tight valleys (WHEW!!!!!)
+ the speed does help battle the altitude caps by allowing longer valley runs instead of going over the top
Rob
Well, I had to try it... and finally made it. However, as I've contended for some time, running very fast airplane on short hops does NOT give much of an advantage. I almost broke the 60 minute mark and probably lost that time on the last leg with a long floater of a landing.
It was fun, scary and there were a dozen practice legs in Bearcats #1 thru #15 that are now available for pickup by the MM Aerial Salvage Corp. Hours of practice to pick best approaches only gained me 2.5 minutes over the Turbo Commander. Rating: Not worth the effort except to see the trees flash by at 350 kts:d
The Bearcat is:
- difficult to slow down (time lost by pullling power sooner)
- VERY difficult to handle just above stall to get into the tight places
- lousy brakes! - even lifting flaps doesn't give a lot of braking action on grass/gravel strips
+ is blessed with huge amounts of power to get airborne and out of tight valleys (WHEW!!!!!)
+ the speed does help battle the altitude caps by allowing longer valley runs instead of going over the top
Rob
DOH!!
A few months back I rebuilt this system including a brand new HD which in turn meant a complete re-install of FSX and all my add-ons. I guess that in my hurry to get all the aircraft back into FSX I forgot about that gauge (I already had it on back-up disc) and to be honest I hadn't flown it since the reinstall. :redf:
All works as it should now. Thanks for that HU Fliger. :ernae:
I might have to try this in the U-bird as the flaps slow you down pretty fast and she is quite perky with only 40 gallons of fuel or so. The flaps make a senior flight attendent waddling down the asile look positively slim. On the road, no Joys't at the moment. Also have to see if I can update FSX now and between.
Howza Boutza event with say two legs in each Category and Class of aircraft.
T.
Howza Boutza event with say two legs in each Category and Class of aircraft.
T.
Sounds like an interesting Addon to the event Tom
Define Categories and Class :ernae:
The FAA defines this. Category is for example: Airplane; Rotorcraft; ummm lighter than air etc. Class would be for example single engine land, multi engine land, single and Multi sea. These can be further subdivided into turbine powered, turbojet recip, and "large" aircraft with a max gross weight of 12,500# or greater.
I think we could come up with several RTW represenative categories. The idea having some real puddle jumper flights, perhaps some rotor wing (mebbe a penalty for reduced realism or crashes turned off) some tactical jets. The idea of having some appropriate challenges for each type. A minimul altitude? reach say 40,000. on the leg for tactical jets.
Ideas anyhow.
I think we could come up with several RTW represenative categories. The idea having some real puddle jumper flights, perhaps some rotor wing (mebbe a penalty for reduced realism or crashes turned off) some tactical jets. The idea of having some appropriate challenges for each type. A minimul altitude? reach say 40,000. on the leg for tactical jets.
Ideas anyhow.
