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Could you please elaborate a little more on how this works? Does FlightSim.com get a percentage of the sales at the store? I do beg to differ though on your statement about going to the developer though, if I choose to go directly in some instances it still supports the community that I am member of.

I would ask how does your buying something straight from the developer support any of the 3 major flightsim forums and help to keep their servers running? The same goes for the crazy popup ads that you might see on some sites. Google pays the sites for their popup ads to be displayed hoping you may take an interest and click on them. The more clicks, the more money they give to the forum sites.

It's a very good habit to donate to whatever site you use on a once a year basis, at least!
 
I would ask how does your buying something straight from the developer support any of the 3 major flightsim forums and help to keep their servers running? The same goes for the crazy popup ads that you might see on some sites. Google pays the sites for their popup ads to be displayed hoping you may take an interest and click on them. The more clicks, the more money they give to the forum sites.

It's a very good habit to donate to whatever site you use on a once a year basis, at least!

Just a thought: because buying directly from the developer removes the margin that the resellers take. Buying directly from the developer also ensures that they actually get what they deserve without other organizations skimming off. Buying directly from the developers might even reduce prices, thereby supporting the flightsim community.

Just ask farmers what the effect is of all the middle men in the distribution of their products. Farmers don't get an honest price anymore.

Priller
 
Just a thought: because buying directly from the developer removes the margin that the resellers take. Buying directly from the developer also ensures that they actually get what they deserve without other organizations skimming off. Buying directly from the developers might even reduce prices, thereby supporting the flightsim community
Priller

Maybe "community" needs to be defined. I see SOH as a flightsim community, as is FlightSim.Com and other web sites. Those are the communities I was thinking of in my previous post. All these community web sites need some form of financial support to keep running.

FlightSim.Com over the years has been primarily funded through what are called "affiliate sales". We align with one or more stores, help them promote products and they pay us in return. Our first affiliation was with Flight Sim Central, who went out of business with no warning. We were briefly affiliated with Simmarket but ended up being affiliated with FSPilotshop, which worked well while eDimensional was the owner but not so much after they sold out and the new owner took over. We are also affiliated with Amazon though we don't run all that many ads for them.

We now own the store we run, which is why it's on our domain as https://store.flightsim.com and not under another name. Developers can sell on their own, but consider that they get benefits by selling through a store. We provide exposure to the flightsim community for products our store sells via news, reviews, banner ads, social media posts, our newsletter as well as through the store itself. We often create the banners, sale graphics, etc. for the developers. We're working for the cut that we take and I think everyone benefits: the developers reach a larger audience, flightsimmers get exposed to add-ons they are interested in, and our community web site gets funding we need to continue running.
 
For those that may not understand how this works. Shops like FS Pilotshop and many others take a percentage commission revenue off every sale. This can be up to 35% of the retail price of the product. The developer or publisher receives the balance, either monthly or in some cases, quarterly. It would depend on the developer or the publisher but we are indeed talking about many thousands of dollars here.
 
Maybe "community" needs to be defined. I see SOH as a flightsim community, as is FlightSim.Com and other web sites. Those are the communities I was thinking of in my previous post. All these community web sites need some form of financial support to keep running.

FlightSim.Com over the years has been primarily funded through what are called "affiliate sales". We align with one or more stores, help them promote products and they pay us in return. Our first affiliation was with Flight Sim Central, who went out of business with no warning. We were briefly affiliated with Simmarket but ended up being affiliated with FSPilotshop, which worked well while eDimensional was the owner but not so much after they sold out and the new owner took over. We are also affiliated with Amazon though we don't run all that many ads for them.

We now own the store we run, which is why it's on our domain as https://store.flightsim.com and not under another name. Developers can sell on their own, but consider that they get benefits by selling through a store. We provide exposure to the flightsim community for products our store sells via news, reviews, banner ads, social media posts, our newsletter as well as through the store itself. We often create the banners, sale graphics, etc. for the developers. We're working for the cut that we take and I think everyone benefits: the developers reach a larger audience, flightsimmers get exposed to add-ons they are interested in, and our community web site gets funding we need to continue running.


One thing that Nels isnt saying which is super helpful for devs.... They look after the international tax hooplah and transaction issues and in the case of devs who dont have server space : server space . In fact stores allow some developers ( we are one of them ) to sell to euro block customers. The EU VAT system is a minefield for a small company trying to sell to a euro customer. We simply dont do it ourselves which means you cant buy directly from us. The cost of a tax accountant alone would add quite a bit to the end price. Devs that do allow EU purchases are doing all that as well as developing. We'd rather be developing only.

This store loss is an unfortunate set of circumstances. The Developers are out of pocket , the affiliates are out of pocket , the advertisers may have lost money and the end customer is no longer able to download their rightly purchased product. ( backing up aside, a customer should in 2019 have access to the product they purchased ) and the industry as a whole ( stores and devs ) takes a hit.
 
Buying directly from the developers might even reduce prices, thereby supporting the flightsim community.

That's exactly my plan when I get all my sound packs on my own store. Because I won't have to get so much skimmed off, wait for late payments and the general hassle of dealing with yet another store, I'll be able to offer my sound packs for around 5 bux and still make enough to keep things going.
 
You can't. The site is defunct leaving many developers unpaid and customers stranded.
 
Now what about FSPilotShop?
I bought there a few years ago,
how do i access it?

You should contact to developer, they would probably help you to get your addon.
I made some carenado and alabeo purchases from FSPS but when i did not get my downloads from there anymore, i contacted to Carenado and Alabeo support, they moved my key and order info to their website so i can download my purchases when i need.
 
You should contact to developer, they would probably help you to get your addon.
I made some carenado and alabeo purchases from FSPS but when i did not get my downloads from there anymore, i contacted to Carenado and Alabeo support, they moved my key and order info to their website so i can download my purchases when i need.

Thank you for idea...

Zsolt
 
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