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FSPilotshop Site Can't Be Reached

After what looked like a recovery, FSPilotshop seems to have totally disappeared now.--
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Dead. What remains now is the question of how they are going to repay all the developers and publishers who sold their products through them and have not received any payment. If one were to look at those numbers, it is not an inconsiderable amount of money. If they are not declared bankrupt or put into receivership, is that not a criminal offence?
 
​I raised a support ticket with the and was told the store was started a year ago and anything purchased from the flightsim.com fspilotshop was purchased elsewhere. Very poor attitude I must say.
 
sonicsolutions said:
I just installed a store to sell local music on my studio website. Thinking I may put all my sound packs on there for folx to purchase since FSPS is unreliable and Sim Market no longer uses Pay Pal to pay vendors.
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That would be great. Or sell through the new store of flightsim.com.
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scotth6 said:
After what looked like a recovery, FSPilotshop seems to have totally disappeared now.
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According to the WHOIS info their Registrar Registration expired last month on October 19th, 2019. That is why FSPILOTSHOP.COM doesn't work. They basically do not exist anymore.
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Fortunately for Team SDB we were paid more or less up to date, after a bit of pressure, before it went down. Others though have not been so lucky. But as with The Flightsim Store (the Australian one) and FS Pilotshop we have no customer records as they were all on the store site. Now there seems to be a similar problem with PC Aviator Australia. All downloadable products have been cleared out. Only hard copies still for sale. We haven't had a sale there for months are they also going south? Makes you wonder. Seems to be the trend when this happens that all communication ceases too.
I could take up fishing again I suppose. But it's raining :(
On the bright side all our stuff is available on SimShack, Flightsim.com and PC Aviator US.:biggrin-new:
 
I received an email from PCAviator US saying tjat they will be taking over the care and customer help, as well as all sale records from Pcaviator AUS. All inquiries and downloads will be available. You may be asked to provide your original receipt.

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modelr said:
I received an email from PCAviator US saying tjat they will be taking over the care and customer help, as well as all sale records from Pcaviator AUS. All inquiries and downloads will be available. You may be asked to provide your original receipt.

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The above was from (slightly faulty) memory. Here is the correct info about PCAviator Aus. :


As a customer who as purchased from our store at pcaviator.com.au, we are sending
you this quick e-mail to let you know that PC Aviator is consolidating our operation such
that all orders will now be placed through our website at https://www.pcaviator.com/store.

All of your previous order information will still be held at www.pcaviator.com.au in the event
that you need to redownload your order or retrieve license number information. You will simply
need to login at that website to retrieve any previous order information.

If you wish to purchase any new flight sim titles from pcaviator.com, you will need to create a
new account if you have not already done so.

For any assistance you need regarding your previous orders at pcaviator.com.au, please send
an e-mail to us at crew@pcaviator.com.

Sincerely

The PC Aviator Crew
PC Aviator - The Flight Simulation Company!
https://www.pcaviator.com/store
PO Box 296
LORIS, SC, 29569
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I went ahead and contacted all the companys,I purchased products from on fspilotshop.com,and they were all very nice,and said,I could still receive backups,or future updates.The only one,I haven’t heard back from yet is Lorbi-si.com for firefighterX,but,I am hoping,I will eventually here back from them.The people that run fspilotshop.com should be ashamed of themselves.:mad-new:
 
I have sent another email to Nels Anderson with a copy of a purchase I made from fspilotshop. The purchase in shown below and not a very cheap item either as the price works out to nearly $100 Australian:

FSPilotShop.com
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Order Number: 1046019
aussie157@bigpond.com
Detailed Invoice: https://www.fspilotshop.com/account_history_info.php?order_id=1046019
Date Ordered: Sunday 15 July, 2018

Products
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1 x Majestic - MJC8 Q400 64-bit PRO Edition for P3D v4 (MJS-130) = $71.95
Delivery Option Instant Download
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Sub-Total: $71.95
Total: $71.95


Billing Address
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Pat Cox

NSW,
2256
Australia

 
Aussieman. Nels Anderson and Flightsim.com are not, and never have been connected to FSPilotshop. FS Pilotshop simply advertised via banner on the Flightsim.com site. FSPilotshop's last owner is/was Joshua Cox who I believe purchased the store from eDimensional. Unfortunately as a customer you are, along with developers, last in the pecking order. You can email Joshua Cox here <joshua@blackpoint.us>; but if we devs can't get a reply from him I'm sure you won't.

You really should check accusations are correct before you post and as you accused Nels publicly here I feel you should apologise publicly on the Flightsim.com forum.

Check out Nels' post here https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?318048-Status-of-FSPILOTSHOP-com/page2
 
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AussieMan said:
I have sent another email to Nels Anderson with a copy of a purchase I made from fspilotshop. The purchase in shown below and not a very cheap item either as the price works out to nearly $100 Australian:
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Since you're all talking about me here I just wanted to chime in. I do believe I answered your email (I get a lot...) and unfortunately there is nothing I can do about orders placed at FSPilotShop. While we used to run ads for them we are not involved in the actual running of the business and do not have any of their records. We've been unable to get any reply from them for quite some time now. I'm afraid you're one of many people they've left in the lurch. They owe me far, far more than they do you and I doubt I'll ever see any of it.

--Nels Anderson
FlightSim.Com

 
Thanks for clearing things up Nels and MickeyD. And MickeyD I was not making accusations as when I purchased from the FSPilotshop I was clicking on a button named "FSPilotshop" that has since changed to "Store".

Since things are now clearer I will no longer post here but will try to get in touch with Joshua Cox (No relation thankfully) and deal directly with him if he answers my email.

Also I do apologise to you Nels for any misunderstanding on my part.

It appears that this is the second FS shop that has disappeared owing developers money.

Lesson learn't out of this episode. always buy direct from the developer where possible.
 
Nels sorry to hear about your difficulties re: this vendor of your work but I'll take this opportunity to thank you for all you've done for us sim users over the years, your efforts are appreciated. At least you will derive a little good feeling out of this otherwise unfortunate mess.
 
AussieMan said:
Lesson learn't out of this episode. always buy direct from the developer where possible.
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I'd really appreciate it if you would un-learn that lesson!

This isn't the first store to go away, and developers have gone away too. Way back when "Flight Sim Central" was the store we ran ads for, but they also went out of business owing us thousands of dollars. You'd need a long memory to recall them.

Please consider that websites like SOH and FlightSim.Com need funding to provide the services you use. Shopping in our FlightSim.Com Store helps provide that funding that keeps our community going. Bypass the store and go straight to the developer and you're no longer supporting the community that you are part of.

--Nels Anderson
FlightSim.Com
 
NelsAnderson said:
I'd really appreciate it if you would un-learn that lesson!

This isn't the first store to go away, and developers have gone away too. Way back when "Flight Sim Central" was the store we ran ads for, but they also went out of business owing us thousands of dollars. You'd need a long memory to recall them.

Please consider that websites like SOH and FlightSim.Com need funding to provide the services you use. Shopping in our FlightSim.Com Store helps provide that funding that keeps our community going. Bypass the store and go straight to the developer and you're no longer supporting the community that you are part of.

--Nels Anderson
FlightSim.Com
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Could you please elaborate a little more on how this works? Does FlightSim.com get a percentage of the sales at the store? I do beg to differ though on your statement about going to the developer though, if I choose to go directly in some instances it still supports the community that I am member of.
 
NelsAnderson said:
Bypass the store and go straight to the developer and you're no longer supporting the community that you are part of.

--Nels Anderson
FlightSim.Com
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Not sure I agree with that. It implies that forum users won't contribute to the forums they use, if they buy from the developers. I don't think this is so.
 
Nels,

Up front, I am not posting to seek recompense for anything, as I have no loss to claim as a buyer from FSPilotShop. I do have backups of everything including the codes for everything I purchased from them and in fact stopped buying from then back in 2015 when things started to go bad.

I purchased many things on FSPilotShop thinking that the store was part of flightsim.com. The site was accessed via a "Store" button on your home page. I am not the only person to believe this based on comments on this thread. Nowhere did the webpage ever imply that FSPilotShop was not part of flightsim.com. That said, you have some blame for the unfortunate hit taken by flightsim.com because of the closure of the store associated/integrated into your webpage.

Now, is the new store, linked to the "Store" button part of flightsim.com or is it another 3rd party vendor that you will take no responsibility for in the future?

Thankyou for this soapbox,

Dave
 
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