Blood_Hawk23
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it will effect all interstate bakeries. so wonderbread, jj nissin's, hostess, and any other brand made by them. we have one of the bakeries here in Maine.
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Hostess closing???
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brad kaste
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Long live Hostess Twinkies!!!!!!!!
Long live Hostess Twinkies!!!!!!!!
brad kaste
Charter Member
Rami,...........you surely hit the nail on the head. My sentiments as well. Some people just tend to be pig headed about it,...now they'll pay the price with a nada job.
Gdavis101
Charter Member
Agreed! The way things are I think keeping the jobs would have been more important than going on a strike. Oh well, Hostess showed them!
I think it is more appropriate to say the Union Showed them.
As I read earlier today the Union was mad that the Drivers (Teamsters Union) were paid more than the bakers.
They decided to strike to not take a pay cut and increase in cost on benefits.
Later in the day I read the Teamsters Union which had just recently renewed their contract with Hostess had taken concessions because they knew the dire straights the company was in. Apparently the bakers union could not see past the dollar signs. No one was looking to the future of the company only their own bottom line.
What I don't know is did management take cuts. I personally believe you lead by example and everything starts at the top. They may have done it but I have not seen it.
I've see a report that executives received pay increases up to 300% while in bankruptcy. If it is true they were giving them selfs pay increase that large than it is a save bet that they were "Tanking" Hostess and it wouldn't matter what the Unions did as the executives were/are "robbing" Hostess of evey last dime...
I would question that report based on the fact that once in bankruptcy nobody gets anything without the judge agreeing and I don't see the judge doing that.
No problem understood
ColoKent
SOH-CM-2025
I was in a panic...
....when I heard the news about Hostess, so I screeched into a convenience store, grabbed a three-pack of chocolate Zingers, and scarfed them down post haste....
Then washed it down with a nice, 32-ounce, chemical-laden Diet-Pepsi...
God, I love this country...
K
....when I heard the news about Hostess, so I screeched into a convenience store, grabbed a three-pack of chocolate Zingers, and scarfed them down post haste....
Then washed it down with a nice, 32-ounce, chemical-laden Diet-Pepsi...
God, I love this country...
K
wombat666
Administrator
At the moment it seems to be running along between the 'white lines' and as long as this continues there is no valid reason for closing it.
Play nice people.
Warhawk1130
Charter Member
Its ironic....the twinkee was created during the great depression of the 1930's to offer something sweet for a very low price. You might say it kept poor people in sweets and made the kids happy.
Now that we have gone through the worst recession ever, and approaching a fiscal cliff, the twinkee (and hostess) are going to fade into oblivion.
Anyway, I managed to snatch up two boxes of the new strawberry cupcakes, and two boxes of chocolate twinkees that I have never tried before. Adios, Hostess...thanks for the pies!
Now that we have gone through the worst recession ever, and approaching a fiscal cliff, the twinkee (and hostess) are going to fade into oblivion.
Anyway, I managed to snatch up two boxes of the new strawberry cupcakes, and two boxes of chocolate twinkees that I have never tried before. Adios, Hostess...thanks for the pies!
It is never a good thing to see a large or small company go bankrupt and close it's doors forever. I feel for every employee. At this time of the year it is even worse. I believe this is just the beginning of large companies going down the pooper and filing the last part of this year and next year. As far as unions are concerned to me they are good for only one thing >> taking your money each week, and destroying a company as we have just see. America has become a very cut throat country. Here is a prime example of greed: Walmart, when they come into a town and build if you look what really happened the stores around them end up closing their doors forever. Where I live we have four Walmarts within ten miles of my home...why. Best Buys, look what is happening to them. I know a lot in here don't care for them but they will be gone too due to the under buying by Amazon and other on line companies. In years to come the internet is great but it will be the death of many companies because their is no way retail stores can even come close to beating their prices. The biggest thing that has hurt us was when home building came to just about a stop, that alone affected many companies. If you look at what it takes from start to finish on a home you will understand. What we saw with Hostess is just the beginning of what we will see next year.
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Your uion dues at work. I would like to see how the actual workers feel or felt. So often when I was still in the work force, I disagreed with what our union was doing, or who they were backing in an election. Unions back in their day were good for the working class, going up against Carneigie, and the others, but today they are just out to line their own pockets. I can't tell how many time they would push for a raise and then turn around and raise dues to nullify it??????? On a sidebar did anyone catch the History channel on ''The men who bulit America'' it was well done and pretty much called in right down the middle
Your uion dues at work. I would like to see how the actual workers feel or felt. So often when I was still in the work force, I disagreed with what our union was doing, or who they were backing in an election. Unions back in their day were good for the working class, going up against Carneigie, and the others, but today they are just out to line their own pockets. I can't tell how many time they would push for a raise and then turn around and raise dues to nullify it??????? On a sidebar did anyone catch the History channel on ''The men who bulit America'' it was well done and pretty much called in right down the middle
CSRS is the old federal retirement system, the gold-plated one. Us folks who retired under FERS don't have it anywhere near as good under the new system but we're still thought of as "living large" on our retirement.
Illustrative union story - I used to live in a closed shop state, and worked for a railroad there. Railroads - one of the original union strongholds in this country. I worked a mid shift as an operator-clerk at a yard near a large auto factory. During that shift, a rail broke in the yard. Fortunately nothing tipped over or went on the ground. The crew that was involved came in and told me about it. I kept anything from going in or out of that track until the day shift. No need to call in maintenance of way in the middle of the night for this. I informed my relief of this circumstance, also the agent who ran the office during the day shift when he came in that morning. I also told maintenance of way myself just before going off shift at 8AM. What happens later but a day job shoved some cars down that track and, not having been told about the rail, put one of the cars on the ground (upright, thankfully). There was a disciplinary hearing over this. Even though I was a party to this event, I was not afforded union representation. The individual who relieved me was given a union rep, who promptly placed the blame on me for not briefing my relief about the rail. Though I didn't know it at the time, the hearing officer, who knew my work record, accepted my statement at face value and I was absolved of any fault or blame in this matter. So in my one and only brush with a labor-management dispute while I was a railroad worker, my "benevolent and protective" union tried to get me fired and the "greedy, exploitative" managers were the ones who came through for me. Go figger.
BTW - HM in Hampton, VA is dead on the money. You ain't seen nothin' yet. Watch the first-time unemployment filings skyrocket starting the first week in Dec, plus the no. of folks who will be getting on food stamps. The foreseeable future - at least the next four years, not just next year - does indeed look very dark and grim.
Illustrative union story - I used to live in a closed shop state, and worked for a railroad there. Railroads - one of the original union strongholds in this country. I worked a mid shift as an operator-clerk at a yard near a large auto factory. During that shift, a rail broke in the yard. Fortunately nothing tipped over or went on the ground. The crew that was involved came in and told me about it. I kept anything from going in or out of that track until the day shift. No need to call in maintenance of way in the middle of the night for this. I informed my relief of this circumstance, also the agent who ran the office during the day shift when he came in that morning. I also told maintenance of way myself just before going off shift at 8AM. What happens later but a day job shoved some cars down that track and, not having been told about the rail, put one of the cars on the ground (upright, thankfully). There was a disciplinary hearing over this. Even though I was a party to this event, I was not afforded union representation. The individual who relieved me was given a union rep, who promptly placed the blame on me for not briefing my relief about the rail. Though I didn't know it at the time, the hearing officer, who knew my work record, accepted my statement at face value and I was absolved of any fault or blame in this matter. So in my one and only brush with a labor-management dispute while I was a railroad worker, my "benevolent and protective" union tried to get me fired and the "greedy, exploitative" managers were the ones who came through for me. Go figger.
BTW - HM in Hampton, VA is dead on the money. You ain't seen nothin' yet. Watch the first-time unemployment filings skyrocket starting the first week in Dec, plus the no. of folks who will be getting on food stamps. The foreseeable future - at least the next four years, not just next year - does indeed look very dark and grim.
Lots of blame to go around here, not just the unions. While asking workers to take yet another pay cut, upper management saw fit to give themselves big raises, just before the collapse....And, it was not the first pay cut workers took, not by a long shot. Since I personnally don't eat those types of foods (diabetes), I'm not going to miss them too much anyway. Although, I must admit, I did like an occasional Twinkie....
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineolen/2012/11/16/who-killed-hostess-brands-and-twinkies/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/helaineolen/2012/11/16/who-killed-hostess-brands-and-twinkies/
Thoe6969
Charter Member
Let me guess,your a union man.Unions are what killed this country and why china now own us,it's better to make less money and still have jobs,but people are to dumb to see it.