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Drake
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Pirates should be paid in lead. Hot, fast moving lead.
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The Staff of SOH
How long are countries going to pay these rats
- Thread starter txnetcop
- Start date
Dose any one remember the last time any one tryed to clean out the rats nets in Somali? I don't think things went well.:redf:
The ships them self need to be armed. No Government needs to protect these ship. Definitely NOT the U.S. as these pirates already pulled off Black Hawk Down on the U.S. Give them a shot at the U.S. Navy an they will pull out the al-Qaeda USS Cole Play Book and try it.
I vote for when the ransom is paid on the tanker we go for a few tomahawk strikes with bomblet-dispensing warhead to sink all these aluminum can fishing boat the use to get around.
No.
EDIT TIME
By the way the took another one today.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=aM21jBIdPSf0
The ships them self need to be armed. No Government needs to protect these ship. Definitely NOT the U.S. as these pirates already pulled off Black Hawk Down on the U.S. Give them a shot at the U.S. Navy an they will pull out the al-Qaeda USS Cole Play Book and try it.
I vote for when the ransom is paid on the tanker we go for a few tomahawk strikes with bomblet-dispensing warhead to sink all these aluminum can fishing boat the use to get around.
No.
EDIT TIME
By the way the took another one today.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=aM21jBIdPSf0
wombat666
Administrator
India 'sinks Somali pirate ship'
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The Indian navy is now patrolling off the Somali coast
</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> <!-- S SF --> The Indian navy has said that one of its warships in the Gulf of Aden has destroyed a ship belonging to pirates operating off the coast of Somalia.
The INS Tabar opened fire on a pirate "mother ship" after it came under attack, a government statement said.
There has been a surge in piracy incidents off Somalia.
The Saudi-owned Sirius Star supertanker is currently anchored off the Somali coast after the vessel and its 25 crew were seized by pirates. <!-- E SF -->
Vela International, operators of the Sirius Star, told the BBC no demands had yet been received from the pirates. The company also said all the crew were safe.
The biggest tanker ever hijacked, Sirius Star is carrying a cargo of two million barrels - a quarter of Saudi Arabia's daily output - worth more than $100m (£67m).
India is among several countries are already patrolling the Gulf of Aden, one of the world's busiest shipping lanes which connects the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
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Fire broke out on the vessel and explosions were heard, possibly due to exploding ammunition that was stored in the vessel
Indian naval statement
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> The Indian navy said the Tabar spotted a pirate vessel while patrolling 285 nautical miles (528km) south-west of Salalah in Oman, on Tuesday evening.
When it demanded the vessel stop for investigation, the pirate ship responded by threatening to "blow up the naval warship if it closed on her", the statement said.
The navy said the pirates on board were armed with guns and rocket propelled grenade launchers. They threatened to blow up the INS Tabar and then fired on it.
The Indians say they retaliated by opening fire and that there was an explosion on the pirate vessel, which sank.
"Fire broke out on the vessel and explosions were heard, possibly due to exploding ammunition that was stored in the vessel," the Indian navy said.
Some of the pirates tried to escape on two speedboats - the Indian sailors gave chase but one boat was later found abandoned, while a second boat escaped.
The Tabar has been patrolling the Gulf of Aden since 23 October, and has escorted 35 ships safely during the "pirate-infested waters", the statement said.
Last week, an helicopter-borne Indian marine commandos stopped pirates from boarding and hijacking an Indian merchant vessel.
On Tuesday, a cargo ship and a fishing vessel became the latest to join more than 90 civilian vessels attacked by the pirates this year.<!-- S IBOX -->
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IBOX --> A 25-crew cargo vessel transporting wheat to Iran was attacked in the Gulf of Aden while contact was lost with the crew of 12 on the fishing boat.
Piracy in the area is estimated to have cost up to $30m in ransoms so far this year, according to a recent report by a UK think-tank.
The pirates who seized the Sirius Star are a sophisticated group with contacts in Dubai and neighbouring countries, says the BBC Somali Service's Yusuf Garaad.
Much of their ransom money from previous hijackings has been used to buy new boats and weapons as well as develop a network across the Horn of Africa, he adds.
The hijackings off the coast of East Africa and the Gulf of Aden - an area of more than 1m sq miles (2.6m sq km) - make up one-third of all global piracy incidents this year, according the International Maritime Board.
Somalia has not had a functioning national government since 1991 and has suffered continuing civil strife.
Shipping companies are now weighing up the risks of using the short-cut route to Europe via the Suez canal.
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</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> <!-- S SF --> The Indian navy has said that one of its warships in the Gulf of Aden has destroyed a ship belonging to pirates operating off the coast of Somalia.
The INS Tabar opened fire on a pirate "mother ship" after it came under attack, a government statement said.
There has been a surge in piracy incidents off Somalia.
The Saudi-owned Sirius Star supertanker is currently anchored off the Somali coast after the vessel and its 25 crew were seized by pirates. <!-- E SF -->
Vela International, operators of the Sirius Star, told the BBC no demands had yet been received from the pirates. The company also said all the crew were safe.
The biggest tanker ever hijacked, Sirius Star is carrying a cargo of two million barrels - a quarter of Saudi Arabia's daily output - worth more than $100m (£67m).
India is among several countries are already patrolling the Gulf of Aden, one of the world's busiest shipping lanes which connects the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
<!-- S IBOX -->
<table width="231" align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td width="5">
Indian naval statement
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> The Indian navy said the Tabar spotted a pirate vessel while patrolling 285 nautical miles (528km) south-west of Salalah in Oman, on Tuesday evening.
When it demanded the vessel stop for investigation, the pirate ship responded by threatening to "blow up the naval warship if it closed on her", the statement said.
The navy said the pirates on board were armed with guns and rocket propelled grenade launchers. They threatened to blow up the INS Tabar and then fired on it.
The Indians say they retaliated by opening fire and that there was an explosion on the pirate vessel, which sank.
"Fire broke out on the vessel and explosions were heard, possibly due to exploding ammunition that was stored in the vessel," the Indian navy said.
Some of the pirates tried to escape on two speedboats - the Indian sailors gave chase but one boat was later found abandoned, while a second boat escaped.
The Tabar has been patrolling the Gulf of Aden since 23 October, and has escorted 35 ships safely during the "pirate-infested waters", the statement said.
Last week, an helicopter-borne Indian marine commandos stopped pirates from boarding and hijacking an Indian merchant vessel.
On Tuesday, a cargo ship and a fishing vessel became the latest to join more than 90 civilian vessels attacked by the pirates this year.<!-- S IBOX -->
<table style="width: 231px; height: 2px;" align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td width="5">
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IBOX --> A 25-crew cargo vessel transporting wheat to Iran was attacked in the Gulf of Aden while contact was lost with the crew of 12 on the fishing boat.
Piracy in the area is estimated to have cost up to $30m in ransoms so far this year, according to a recent report by a UK think-tank.
The pirates who seized the Sirius Star are a sophisticated group with contacts in Dubai and neighbouring countries, says the BBC Somali Service's Yusuf Garaad.
Much of their ransom money from previous hijackings has been used to buy new boats and weapons as well as develop a network across the Horn of Africa, he adds.
The hijackings off the coast of East Africa and the Gulf of Aden - an area of more than 1m sq miles (2.6m sq km) - make up one-third of all global piracy incidents this year, according the International Maritime Board.
Somalia has not had a functioning national government since 1991 and has suffered continuing civil strife.
Shipping companies are now weighing up the risks of using the short-cut route to Europe via the Suez canal.
cheezyflier
Charter Member
i have this thing in my head that makes me wonder why they don't set a trap for them. how hard could it really be to load a ship with a false cargo, crew it with a bunch special forces type guys, and cruise around till they attack?
why not put heavy security forces on all these shipping vessels? sooner or later, i think if you kill enough of them, they'll quit. couldn't something like this actually work?
why not put heavy security forces on all these shipping vessels? sooner or later, i think if you kill enough of them, they'll quit. couldn't something like this actually work?
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MCDesigns
Guest
WAY TO GO INDIA!!!!!!!!!!
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Daveroo
Members +
i know yall will disagree..but ive seen many shows on this and talked to many people..now its main stream after these attacks..and yes theyre attacks....but i think the maritime laws need to be changed and the vessels captain and first mate should be armed..or maybe a specail armed crew while in pirate waters...shoot back...those people will flee..its in thier blood to flee when confronted..but right now they have the power with thier AK47s uzi's or whatever...mount a .30 gatling on the bow and one on the stearn and by god thier gonna run........
besides..what are they going to do with that oil now?.....all the US has to do is blockaide the ship from entering any port...they will give it up ..
besides..what are they going to do with that oil now?.....all the US has to do is blockaide the ship from entering any port...they will give it up ..
wombat666
Administrator
There are way too many points of entry for shipping (even large tankers) in countries that would get extremely pissed at ANY attempt to blockade their ports.
That alone may be taken as an overt 'Act of War'.
The only way to overcome the Piracy issue is to re-route shipping and provide close escorts, both of which will escalate the cost of seaborne trade.
And really, there are just not enough escorts available to carry out such a huge operation.
Snuffy
Happiness Consultant
Time to park a carrier task force in the area with aircraft ready for scramble 24/7.
As soon as a S.o.s. is emmitted ... jet away ... blow em out of the water, follow them into port and rip the place apart.
Just a suggestion.
As was mentioned the puppet government in that country doesn't have enough muscle to counteract an operation against the pirates bases.
As soon as a S.o.s. is emmitted ... jet away ... blow em out of the water, follow them into port and rip the place apart.
Just a suggestion.
As was mentioned the puppet government in that country doesn't have enough muscle to counteract an operation against the pirates bases.
Snuffy
Happiness Consultant
I'll kindly ask that you stop using my tinfoil hat to come up with conspiracy theories. Get your own tinfoil, mine's special and comes up with the great theories!:costumes::costumes::costumes::costumes:
Yeah, that theory passed across my neurons as well.