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NASCAR Exictement

Hey All,

Fines for Brad and Tony (hooray!) and probation for Brad. All good NASCAR saw Brads side of it (and maybe Roger Penske has some pull bein a co-owner of tracks and such with the Frances :mixed-smiley-010:). In addition to Jimmie, Joey, Kevin and Kasey I'm a Brad fan as some here know - so I'm good with this. Now on to Talledega.

F1 - I couldn't believe this Charlie Whiting dude saying the Bianchi incident was the result of a perfect storm... Wow like a typhoon dude. Jesus. (I need to find that article)

From... http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/...idering-new-ways-to-slow-cars-in-crash-zones/

The FIA has spoken for the first time since Jules’ Bianchi’s horrific accident in the Japanese Grand Prix last Sunday. They announced plans to find a new system for speed control through yellow flag caution zones, taking the decision to slow down away from the drivers. They will meet with teams to discuss the best means of imposing a speed control system...

However, Whiting insists that there was no necessity for the deployment of the safety car in the wake of Sutil’s crash, saying that the German’s car was not on or close enough to edge of the track to warrant its introduction.

like DUH slow the cars - take the decision away from drivers! No need for a safety car...

Ex-racer turned commentator Martin Brundle was almost killed by hitting a crane at exactly the same spot in 1994. The process by which they are used is sure to be at the centre of the focus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1/jules-bianchi-crash-f1-race-4392401#ixzz3GAe0dVj2
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So does this Whiting dude know history? Enough F1 - hopefully they learn about safety - good to see other drivers all over it.

Returning to NASCAR - Talledega is gonna be interesting!

-Ed-
 
Nothing but a slap on the wrist by NASCAR - most likely (IMHO) because they don't want to upset The Chase.

But looking at what happened to Kurt Busch, A.J. Allmendinger, & Al Unser Jr., (all 3 "fired" by Roger), there's a good chance that Brad received very stern words from Roger.
 
"So does this Whiting dude know history? Enough F1 - hopefully they learn about safety - good to see other drivers all over it."
I though you knew EVERYTHING 'RN'.

"Whiting has been working in racing since he was 15. He started out helping his brother Nick to prepare saloon and rally cars at their base at West Kingsdown, near the Brands Hatch racing circuit in England. By the mid-1970s Nick Whiting had become a club racing hero at Brands, driving his All Car Equipe machines with great verve and enthusiasm. In 1976 the brothers ran a Surtees in the 1976 British F5000 series for lady racer Divina Galica.

Having tasted high level competition Charlie wanted more and he joined Hesketh Racing at Easton Neston, near Silverstone, for the 1977 season. The team closed down at the end of the year and Charlie found a job at Brabham in Weybridge. He would stay at Brabham for the next 10 years, becoming chief mechanic for the World Championship successes of 1981 and 1983 and later rising to be chief engineer. Charlie stayed until the end of 1987 - shortly before Ecclestone sold the team.
In 1988 he became the FIA Formula 1 Technical Delegate, his job to scrutineer the F1 cars. Being a former mechanic and engineer was a great help as he had seen all kinds of attempts to circumnavigate the regulations over the years - and, rumor has it, was even involved in a few himself. In 1997 he was appointed FIA Race Director and Safety Delegate. He is also the Permanent Starter at F1 races and the head of the Formula 1 Technical Department at the FIA."

And his point is quite relevant.
 
Nothing but a slap on the wrist by NASCAR - most likely (IMHO) because they don't want to upset The Chase. But looking at what happened to Kurt Busch, A.J. Allmendinger, & Al Unser Jr., (all 3 "fired" by Roger), there's a good chance that Brad received very stern words from Roger.
Yep, a slap on the wrist and points penalties are off limits. A $50,000 fine... to us that is a ton of money, but when you are pulling down a million plus a year, I doubt they will even notice.
 
Yep, a slap on the wrist and points penalties are off limits. A $50,000 fine... to us that is a ton of money, but when you are pulling down a million plus a year, I doubt they will even notice.

We're not the only ones who think it was a slap on the wrist...

Menzer: I think Brad got off way too easy. Even though the points probably don't matter, give him at least a 10-point deduction that would have dropped him to the bottom of the Chase Contender Round standings --€“ making it an absolute certainty that he will have to win at Talladega. $50k and a four-race probation? That's nothing more than a slap on the wrist, proving again that what Kevin Harvick said after the race was true: NASCAR loves this stuff (and so do we, but the penalties on BK still should have been greater).

-> http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/sha...s-title-picks-and-a-dale-jr-prediction-101514
 
Hey All,

Of course it was a slap on the wrist. You think there are going to be a lot of people watching Talledega? I do. As for this chase format I'm not sure I like it - If you really want elimination Im leaning toward 5 races then 4 races then one race. Maybe eliminate 4 then 4 and let 4 run one race. Give more opportunity to stay in the chase. Ultimately I think I like the points over 10 races best but if you want elimination I think it needs changed. I've no problem with the idea of a chase component.

As for F1 I'm done for now - I'm just glad Jules Bianchi's safety was in the hands of someone as expert, experienced and old school as Charlie Whiting as is his family and girlfriend I'm sure.

-Ed-
 
Clint Bowyer is 100% spot-on here...

Bowyer's response: "If Matt Kenseth comes running at you and puts you in a headlock and punches you in the nose, there's no jury needed. There's no judge needed. You're guilty. Period. This (Kenseth) is the nicest guy in the garage and if you can get him to that breaking point, there's no sense of even saying anything. Just take your beating and go home."

-> http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/sto...ght-just-take-your-beating-and-go-home-101614
 
Yep, Bowyer is right. To get Matt that angry, you really have to push his buttons and push them hard.

I still think there should have been a points penalty for Brad's post-race use of his car as a battering ram. I think Stewart should have also been penalized for using his rear bumper as a battering ram on pit road. I expect there would have been a points penalty if The Chase had yet to begin.
 
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