News on the old Alpha BAC TSR2 and Others

[Sundog]

If anyone wants to dig deeper, I highly recommend TSR.2, Britain's Lost Bomber by Damien Burke.

 

[fsafranek]

Custom XML animation code in FS9 MDL files can be recovered using a hex editor. It's a mess in terms of formatting, but variables and mathematical operators are plain visible.

Not sure how prone Alphasim was to using custom XML code. It could very well be that nose wheel extension was controlled by something trivial, e.g. the default wing fold animation.

We weren't at all. The only xml used was in the gauges.

 

[fsafranek]

I think the nose wheel extension was tagged to the tail hook function.

That is correct. And after takeoff you had to remember to reverse it otherwise the gear would extend into the fuselage and be visible.

 

[DC1973]

I became really interested in TSR2, reading everything I could find on the subject and was fired up to get the model finished.
The main landing gears are like nothing else on earth, they must weigh tons!
The prototype was nearly lost in a landing gear malfunction.
I could have told the designers that they would have trouble with them but sadly my opinion meant nothing.
After some pain I managed to get them working on the model, to a point.
Although it has the appearance of some sort of futuristic missile on the ground once in simulated air it looks less appealing!
Enthusiasm for the project began to ebb away.
I would have money on it that they realized it was a lost cause and cancelled it for that reason.
I still fly it around the "Mach Loop" from time to time and may go back to it but not in the foreseeable future.

RobR

Thanks for letting us know Rob, looks like we should forge ahead and see what we can do with the TSR 2! For those worried about FSX / P3D compatibility, I'll be able to ensure the model works in both. Did it for the Reporter / P-61C and I don't think there were any issues. Fingers crossed, I can bring in Ambient Occlusion and PBR for the P3D version but still learning those techniques at the moment.

 

[fallenphoenix1986]

As an aside, I have an FSX / P3D native Sepecat Jaguar GR3 / T3 in the works, which is lined up for freeware release around late 2019 - early 2020.

Whats your favourite beer? Theres a case on the way lol

The first two times I ever saw a fighter it was a Jag. First time I was in my uncles car and we overtook one that had been loaded on to the back of a truck. The second time it was a pair in formation screaming through a glen in the West of Scotland below the point at which I was standing, have had a bit of a soft spot for them ever since.

 

[Dev One]

Whats your favourite beer? Theres a case on the way lol

The first two times I ever saw a fighter it was a Jag. First time I was in my uncles car and we overtook one that had been loaded on to the back of a truck. The second time it was a pair in formation screaming through a glen in the West of Scotland below the point at which I was standing, have had a bit of a soft spot for them ever since.

Noisiest beasts when one is under one in the low level flying area in Wales, surprises people as well as cattle etc! Wonder what TSR2 sounded like, never heard her although I worked on her for 3 years in the Weybridge D.O.

 

[fsafranek]

Noisiest beasts when one is under one in the low level flying area in Wales, surprises people as well as cattle etc! Wonder what TSR2 sounded like, never heard her although I worked on her for 3 years in the Weybridge D.O.

They used two Rolls-Royce Olympus engines. Same as was used in the Avro Vulcan V bomber and the Concorde (renamed the Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593). So half of whatever those sounded like?

 

[centuryseries]

If it were possible to gauge the level of enthusiasm for the TSR2, I could be persuaded to continue with one I started a while back for FSX and be P3D compatible.

 

[DC1973]

If it were possible to gauge the level of enthusiasm for the TSR2, I could be persuaded to continue with one I started a while back for FSX and be P3D compatible.

We've got a good 'un on the roll here - we thought we'd be updating an old FS9 model, but the TSR 2 we've been offered to complete is pretty much payware quality, far more advanced than I'd thought it would be!! Keep watching this space as I'm sure Mitch and others will be updating soon with more news

 

[dhazelgrove]

They used two Rolls-Royce Olympus engines. Same as was used in the Avro Vulcan V bomber and the Concorde (renamed the Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593). So half of whatever those sounded like?

Exactly like a British Phantom, then.

Dave

 

[Motormouse]

Exactly like a British Phantom, then.

Dave

Those were Speys on Phantom (fitted enough of them), Olympus is much, much louder.

Ttfn

Pete

 

[dhazelgrove]

Those were Speys on Phantom (fitted enough of them), Olympus is much, much louder.

Ttfn

Pete

Of course. I was trying not to say "Vulcan".

Dave

 

[centuryseries]

We've got a good 'un on the roll here - we thought we'd be updating an old FS9 model, but the TSR 2 we've been offered to complete is pretty much payware quality, far more advanced than I'd thought it would be!! Keep watching this space as I'm sure Mitch and others will be updating soon with more news

Sounds good, the TSR2 is lacking in FSX and a good one would be very welcome.

 

[top gun]

would love to see one made for FSX / PR4 please , my all time fav aircraft

 

[fsafranek]

If it were possible to gauge the level of enthusiasm for the TSR2, I could be persuaded to continue with one I started a while back for FSX and be P3D compatible.

Well, about 16 participants here if that's any gauge.
Certainly not enough to make a marketability decision on.
Maybe enough for a decision to go ahead with a free update into FSX?

 

[jjdc]

Yes please

I saw one during testing. Impressive aircraft blind politicians.

Looking forward to it.

John

 

[mal998]

No worries. We are moving ahead with the TSR2 update.

 

[DC1973]

Just gonna leave these here, now that the project is officially underway with model-creator Dave Hanvey's encouragement and support...

 

[Sundog]

That looks amazing! This is going to be another great release.

 

[jamminjames]

Put me down for one!