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Revisiting the Cloud 9 Phantom porting issue..

Hanimichal said:
Anyone have problem with wire/carrier?
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The model is not (yet) seaworthy LOL. First you need to add a [launch_assistance] section to the Aircraft.cfg :

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot= 13.3, 0.0, -9.0
launch_bar_lug = 14.8, 0.0, -10.0

Then the [TailHook] values need to be fixed, they are way off, I tried a trap and the hook does not catch any wire. Would be nice if someone can sort this out, it is not on my priority list at the moment.

Edit: This is a quick & dirty attempt which works for me:

[TailHook]
tailhook_length=6.5
tailhook_position = -30.00, 0, -3.1
cable_force_adjust = 1.0
 
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hschuit said:
The model is not (yet) seaworthy LOL. First you need to add a [launch_assistance] section to the Aircraft.cfg :

[launch_assistance]
launch_bar_pivot= 13.3, 0.0, -9.0
launch_bar_lug = 14.8, 0.0, -10.0

Then the [TailHook] values need to be fixed, they are way off, I tried a trap and the hook does not catch any wire. Would be nice if someone can sort this out, it is not on my priority list at the moment.

Edit: This is a quick & dirty attempt which works for me:

[TailHook]
tailhook_length=6.5
tailhook_position = -30.00, 0, -3.1
cable_force_adjust = 1.0
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Finally able to catch a wire on the AI Carrier, but still can't connect to catapult . Any ideas ?
 
Corvette99 said:
Finally able to catch a wire on the AI Carrier, but still can't connect to catapult . Any ideas ?
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Strange... I have no issues with the cat (used Javier's Nimitz); not happy with the tailhook yet, catched a wire on only 1 out of 3 attempts.
 

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dhazelgrove said:
Dave
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That repaint, and the ones done by Duckie for the AS/V RF-4B are why that model remains my favourite F-4 model - thus far. It could be that is about to change ... :)

On the topic of "navalising" the E - it seems the hook operates in FSX - how about the wing fold?

Lastly, I assume from the screens that there are only 4 model/stores config: 1) clean, 2) Centre tank + 4x AIM-9, 3) loadout 2) + 2x wing tanks and ALQ-71 pod, and 3) 2x Wing Tanks + Bomb. Is that correct? I was hoping there'd be a 2x wing tank only option - but I suppose that was not a common E loadout - seems the single centre tank was the main "tank only" load out in actual operations ??? Historically, I've not paid much attention to the E/F/G Phantoms, so I'm still learning ...

cheers,

DL

The purchase may take a few days longer. PS - Mrs. CM is encouraging me to replace my 6 year old sim PC. I'm still debating whether I want to do that or not .... :lol :)
 
delta_lima said:
Lastly, I assume from the screens that there are only 4 model/stores config: 1) clean, 2) Centre tank + 4x AIM-9, 3) loadout 2) + 2x wing tanks and ALQ-71 pod, and 3) 2x Wing Tanks + Bomb. Is that correct? I was hoping there'd be a 2x wing tank only option - but I suppose that was not a common E loadout - seems the single centre tank was the main "tank only" load out in actual operations ??? Historically, I've not paid much attention to the E/F/G Phantoms, so I'm still learning ...

cheers,

DL
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From the actual FS9 manual:

Aircraft Configurations

The aircraft included with this product are available in different configurations:
• AIR-to-AIR: two wing tanks + centerline tank + ALQ 119 + 3 AIM 120 + 4 AIM 9.
• LONG RANGE: two wing tanks + centerline tank + 2 travel-pods.
• QRA: 2 wing tanks + centerline tank + 2 AIM 9.
• TRAINING: centerline tank + AIM 9 Dummy + FPR (Flight Profile Recorder).
• CLEAN: no external stores.
• AIR-to-GROUND: centerline tank + 4 AGM65 Maverick.
• BOMB: 2 wing tanks + centerline tank + 4 AIM 9 + 2 TER (triple ejector rail) with 6 MK82 bombs.
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And yes, the wing fold does work in FSX
 
delta_lima said:
That repaint, and the ones done by Duckie for the AS/V RF-4B are why that model remains my favourite F-4 model - thus far. It could be that is about to change ... :)

On the topic of "navalising" the E - it seems the hook operates in FSX - how about the wing fold?

Lastly, I assume from the screens that there are only 4 model/stores config: 1) clean, 2) Centre tank + 4x AIM-9, 3) loadout 2) + 2x wing tanks and ALQ-71 pod, and 3) 2x Wing Tanks + Bomb. Is that correct? I was hoping there'd be a 2x wing tank only option - but I suppose that was not a common E loadout - seems the single centre tank was the main "tank only" load out in actual operations ??? Historically, I've not paid much attention to the E/F/G Phantoms, so I'm still learning ...

cheers,

DL

The purchase may take a few days longer. PS - Mrs. CM is encouraging me to replace my 6 year old sim PC. I'm still debating whether I want to do that or not .... :lol :)
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Here are the model options...

McDonnellDouglas_F4_Phantom_AA
McDonnellDouglas_F4_Phantom_AG
McDonnellDouglas_F4_Phantom_CLEAN
McDonnellDouglas_F4_Phantom_QRA
McDonnellDouglas_F4_Phantom_TRAINING
McDonnellDouglas_F4_PhantomII_BOMB
McDonnellDouglas_F4_PhantomII_LONG RANGE
 
Thanks WH and TF - much appreciated.

Between either LR, TRG, or QRA - one could get a configuration close to a tanked RF - and that's pretty good.

Glad to know the wings work too. Most excellent.

DL
 
TuFun said:
Fine tuning some of the elements of the inner tube effects...

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I'm feeling pumped up ... :running: Sorry, couldn't resist ...


They indeed look like they emanate from where the flame holder/spray bars would be in a J79. On many AB effects, they seem too far back, maybe modelers don't know how far forward that additional combustion actually takes place. Here, though, it looks spot on.

Bravo!

DL
 
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Decided to try to finish the VF 151 Navy scheme. Progress and learning the paint kit.

 
stovall said:
Decided to try to finish the VF 151 Navy scheme. Progress and learning the paint kit.

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Love it so far ! Is there a clean gray bird to use as a starting point for Navy aircraft ? If somebody has one , could you post a link for it ? I would love to do some Navy textures , I have a lot that I did for the Iris and Virtavia and would like to redo them for this beauty ! She is much better than the others !
 
delta_lima said:
I'm feeling pumped up ... :running: Sorry, couldn't resist ...


They indeed look like they emanate from where the flame holder/spray bars would be in a J79. On many AB effects, they seem too far back, maybe modelers don't know how far forward that additional combustion actually takes place. Here, though, it looks spot on.

Bravo!

DL
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I try to look inside the model and see how the the tubes are modeled. Then make the appropriate changes to fit. Also, I was looking at the flame holder of a J-79, so I made some textures of the same.


MJgoe.jpg


Now reflected in this video...
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Corvette99 said:
Love it so far ! Is there a clean gray bird to use as a starting point for Navy aircraft ? If somebody has one , could you post a link for it ? I would love to do some Navy textures , I have a lot that I did for the Iris and Virtavia and would like to redo them for this beauty ! She is much better than the others !
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I'm not a repainter - but maybe check with Steve Bryant (aka "Duckie") here - he's done lots of great repaints for the AS / V model - he's famous for his stencil details. He's an FS9 only user - but still may be a good resource.

Hope that helps!

DL
 
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