Some C-47 V3 Feedback

[lawlegge]

@ Ron
I believe it is tied to groundspeed. If you are right at the trigger speed, the rattles will cut in and out accordingly...


On another note, still sound related...

Is there a way to have the "Callouts" defaulted to "ON". Just so we don't have to click it each new flight?

And - since were on the subject...
Is there a way to have the "Monitor" boxes defaulted to open as well, again so we don't have to do them each time? Still have them hidden - as in pull them up with shift+4 - but come up open (ie; in its previous or 'set' state) initially - with "Callouts" ON. Just as it does 'after' you set them up the first time...

 

[triflyman]

So I tried to add sound, besides the click, to the no smoking and fasten seat belts switches but it doesn't work. At the same time I tried to add a ground roll sound. The sound files were added to the sound folder from my PMDG NGX folder along with the config entries. (for my personal use). What am I missing, is there a reason this won't work in the C-47 V3.12?
The area highlighted is my addition to the C-47's sound.cfg
Thanks for any insight.

Interesting that can these other sounds from other aircraft...I noticed, and missed, the little "ding" you get on most aircraft when I turn on the No Smoking and Fasten Seat Belt signs. I may try to add that from another aircraft. Thanks.

However...does anyone know if the DC-3 in airline service actually made a "ding" sound when either of these were activated? Interesting to find out.

 

[ncooper]

We had this discussion in the alpha\beta testing stage.
The answer seemed to be that all the known real aircraft did not have a sound
that played when the switches were moved but instead, lights were switched on
and off in the passenger cabin.
That said, there are so many versions of the DC3 and C47 that adding a sound
may well reflect what some operator or other has added for their own purposes.

 

[cavaricooper]

Jan et al-

Would it be possible to provide some insight into the continued development of v3, in particular Alex Metzger's revisit to the flight model? It would be much appreciated! This aeroplane enthralls in much the same way as her real life counterpart.

Ta!

C

 

[AussieMan]

I too would like to see further development of this wonderful aircraft. Move it up to passenger model with proper interior. I would also like to see a 28/32 passenger version that includes a Viewmaster version.

 

[Jafo]

I too would like to see further development of this wonderful aircraft. Move it up to passenger model with proper interior. I would also like to see a 28/32 passenger version that includes a Viewmaster version.

Ditto .....afterall half the paints I've done are actually 16 window or Viewmasters ....

 

[BendyFlyer]

We had this discussion in the alpha\beta testing stage.
The answer seemed to be that all the known real aircraft did not have a sound
that played when the switches were moved but instead, lights were switched on
and off in the passenger cabin.
That said, there are so many versions of the DC3 and C47 that adding a sound
may well reflect what some operator or other has added for their own purposes.

Been in a lot of DC3/C47's in my time, none had chimes in the cockpit. The switch was to illuminate the signs usually on the forward cabin bulkhead. Reason for no chimes? The signs on and off were part of your checklist items and unless in really clear weather you generally left them on.

 

[Javis]

Jan et al- Would it be possible to provide some insight into the continued development of v3, in particular Alex Metzger's revisit to the flight model? It would be much appreciated! This aeroplane enthralls in much the same way as her real life counterpart.
Ta!
C

Well, i can't speak for Alexander of course and i am not sure about any updates regarding the flight model at this moment. Daniel and Manfred are working on a much more sophisticated Audible Checklist (totally amazing if you ask me! ) and currently i am trying to lite up the cockpit so to speak. Going quite well but it's not like it's an overnight job...

Now, on the matter of passenger service, very much looking forward to that myself. I will see to that the C-47 gets a more or less genuine DC-3 outfit, in the first place sporting the short air-intakes and dress up the cabin with a few rows of pax seats. Maybe possibly do away with the astrodome and replace the glider-tow tail with the original pointy tail.

Please do not ask for cabin windows and pax/cargo door configurations for the time being. I might look into that later as well as extending the VVC towards the cabin.

Cheers,
Jan

 

[Jafo]

Please do not ask for cabin windows and pax/cargo door configurations for the time being.

Cheers,
Jan

OK....just let us know when we can ask for them....

 

[cavaricooper]

Jan-

The peek behind the curtain is appreciated! I can only imagine the work involved as programming is far beyond me.

Thanks to you and the TEAM!

Best- Carl

Well, i can't speak for Alexander of course and i am not sure about any updates regarding the flight model at this moment. Daniel and Manfred are working on a much more sophisticated Audible Checklist (totally amazing if you ask me! ) and currently i am trying to lite up the cockpit so to speak. Going quite well but it's not like it's an overnight job...

Now, on the matter of passenger service, very much looking forward to that myself. I will see to that the C-47 gets a more or less genuine DC-3 outfit, in the first place sporting the short air-intakes and dress up the cabin with a few rows of pax seats. Maybe possibly do away with the astrodome and replace the glider-tow tail with the original pointy tail.

Please do not ask for cabin windows and pax/cargo door configurations for the time being. I might look into that later as well as extending the VVC towards the cabin.

Cheers,
Jan

 

[BendyFlyer]

.............. currently i am trying to lite up the cockpit so to speak. Going quite well but it's not like it's an overnight job...

Cheers,
Jan

Jan has someone who has grappled with the issues of VC lighting in portovers (and failed) I do not underestimate what a difficult task this and have plenty of patience so see how it all goes. As a matter of interest are you looking at guage lights and base night cabin light textures and I wont even mention the issue of shading. Keep up the good work it is appreciated.

 

[triflyman]

Cowl Flaps

Before takeoff I click on the airplane icon (in the Monitor window) next to Cowls, for the Co-Pilot to control cowl flaps, and they open to trail (on the knobs) and usually show "8" in the Monitor. Then after I get to cruise (CHT well below 200 C) for awhile they still show "8"...so I again click on the icon and they will go down to 0 or 1. My understanding is that once I click on the icon, before takeoff, the co pilot should adjust the cowl flaps throughout the whole flight without having to click on the icon again.

Any one with any ideas on this?

Thanks,

 

[triflyman]

Mixture

When I pull my mixture control full back the Monitor shows ".001-.273 0" and the Co-Pilot will not move on to the next checklist item until I use my mouse to scroll the mixture back to the Monitor showing ".000-.273 0" and then he will acknowledge "mixture off". I have recalibrated my throttle quadrant several times, even tried cheating by not quite pulling the mixture full back during calibration, and still get same result.

Would suggest letting the co-pilot consider a ".001-.273 0" as "mixture off".

Thanks,

 

[Alky]

Before takeoff I click on the airplane icon (in the Monitor window) next to Cowls, for the Co-Pilot to control cowl flaps

the co pilot should adjust the cowl flaps throughout the whole flight without having to click on the icon again.

Works for me, just click on it once during pre-flight, the co-pilot looks after it from then on and will adjust as needed. You can tell it's in co-pilot mode (auto) if the the number is highlighted. (brighter white)
I turn on the F4 monitor window as soon as I'm in the cockpit and leave it on for the entire flight. There are other features that are very useful, such as auto trim, works the same as cowels, turn it on and feggedaboutit about it.

 

[triflyman]

Works for me, just click on it once during pre-flight, the co-pilot looks after it from then on and will adjust as needed. You can tell it's in co-pilot mode (auto) if the the number is highlighted. (brighter white)
I turn on the F4 monitor window as soon as I'm in the cockpit and leave it on for the entire flight. There are other features that are very useful, such as auto trim, works the same as cowels, turn it on and feggedaboutit about it.

Might be that I turn it on just after run-up (mag check) before take off. Never looked to see if it went bright. Next flight I'll try turning it on during pre-flight (before start) and see what it does.

Thanks,

 

[Alky]

Might be that I turn it on just after run-up (mag check) before take off.

Should be on before you start the engines. On the ground, engines running, the co-pilot will have the cowl flaps open to about 8, as you take off and fly he will gradually decrease them to around 1.

 

[seawing]

Hi!
First of all, let me say how much I love this bird! It is really a great addition to my FSX aircraft collection and as stated by many before, a lot of payware aircraft never reach the level of this C-47! Thank you!

Practicing a few inflight emergencies (just to be prepared), I noticed that I could not restart ENG #2 in flight. ENG #1 started ok - although not with the RW procedure, but that's ok for me at this stage. So, I was wondering, do I do something wrong? Is it just my bird or do others have the same issue? Or is it just done to the beta status? I couldn't find a restart procedure in the manual.

Best regards,

Seawing

 

[mjahn]

Nothing intentional, no. It could be a height issue, but we need more data ... best show us the settings on the Shift-3 Control and Shift-4 Monitor panels. Then we'll try to replicate it.

 

[seawing]

Ok, actually from this morning's flight, it seems to be the same problem with both engine #1 and #2.
Here are the pictures. Picture 1 is just after shutdown. Picture 2 is during the restart attempt (RPM never got above 400RPM). And picture 3 is on ground after a character building single engine landing ;-) and shows that the engine didn't even start on ground. Only after both engines were stopped and a complete reset was done (engines off, all systems off, battery off) both engines could be restarted.







Best regards,

Seawing

 

[mjahn]

Okay, in order to restart go to the Control panel, the line that indicates FAIL on engine #1, the "prop" cell. Mid-click to "change unit" until you see "fth" for feather. L-click then and the failure condition will be removed and you can restart normally. Repeatedly pushing the feather button on the OH should also remove the failure condition indicated in the Control Panel.

Note that the Control panel has a failure color code advising you when things are starting to get pear-shaped. In your pic #1 "f/a" (fuel/air) ratio is shown red meaning immediate action required. The reason I believe is that you have Mixture Full Rich (=100) at 6,000 feet. Lower mixture manually or click "Mix" in Monitor panel for "set best", and things will revert to oK status (black). Same procedure basically for other failures. Especially watch out for things happening in the engine section of the Control panel.