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The greatest bomber on the planet.

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And most of us have passed several kidney stones laughing at the 'rationale' behind this thread!
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Well then, if it's laughable to praise the B-1 (the purpose of this thread), then please tell me what's wrong with it? :kilroy: Are you a BUFF guy too?


They're everywhere!! There's no escaping B-52 people!!:icon_lol:
 
During Red Flag, F-15 and 16's regularly try to get behind the B-1's at low level. They just can't keep up without hitting the ground. The B-1 is capable of over mach-1 at sea level. ...
That may be, but it is rated M=0.92 at sea level.
If you go faster (and it can), you need to rebuild the engine intakes and much of the aft structure after the flight.

Knowledgeable observers of the time stated "The B-1 is a formidable weapon, but not terribly useful. For the price of one bomber, you can have 200 cruise missiles."
The B-1B only came about because President Reagan didn't trust his predecessor's judgement in signing off on the B-2, and wanted some additional insurance.
Yes the B-2 was Jimmy Carter's baby...
 
Well then, if it's laughable to praise the B-1 (the purpose of this thread), then please tell me what's wrong with it? :kilroy: Are you a BUFF guy too?

The reason that we have a forum headed "Newshawks" is for the posting of "Newsworthy" information, not for a "Mine's bigger/better/faster than Yours" rubbish.
And no, I'm not a B-52 type, 'my' wars have all been fought in the up close and personal mode.
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That may be, but it is rated M=0.92 at sea level.
If you go faster (and it can), you need to rebuild the engine intakes and much of the aft structure after the flight.
Good lord, that's not true. Who told you that?

Knowledgeable observers of the time
stated "The B-1 is a formidable weapon, but not terribly useful. For the price of one bomber, you can have 200 cruise missiles."
That could be said about a lot of aircraft, and it's an odd thing to say. One thing about cruise missiles is they need a delivery system. The B-1B was designed from the get go as a cruise missile delivery system.
 
What, that it's a subsonic aircraft, developed from a Mach 2 concept B-1A?
Let me Google that for you...

Thanks!! here's a copy from the first response:

The B-1 Lancer is a strategic bomber used by the United States Air Force. First envisioned in the 1960s as a supersonic bomber with sufficient range and payload to replace the B-52 Stratofortress, it developed primarily into a low-level penetrator with long-range and capable of supersonic speed. Its development was stopped and restarted multiple times over its history, as the theory of strategic balance changed from flexible response to mutually assured destruction and back again. It eventually entered service more than 20 years after first being studied.
The B-1B production version has been in service with the United States Air Force (USAF) since 1986. The Lancer serves as the supersonic component of the USAF's long-range bomber force, along with the subsonic B-52 and B-2 Spirit. The bomber is commonly called the "Bone" (originally from "B-One"). With the retirement of the EF-111 Raven in 1998 and the F-14 Tomcat in 2006, the B-1B is the U.S. military's only variable-sweep wing aircraft.

here's more from the second response:

In March 2008, the B-1B became the first aircraft to fly at supersonic speed using synthetic fuel.

BTW, that google function you used is really cool. I've never seen that before. For those who haven't either, click on his link.
 
Right.
Now read a little further, and you will find that the B1-B
is rated M=0.92 at sea level.
If you go faster (and it can), you need to rebuild the engine intakes and much of the aft structure after the flight.
It is however cleared for supersonic speed at altitude.
 
Its maximum speed at altitude is Mach 1.25 (about 950 mph or 1,530 km/h),<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Jenkins_p60_23-0>[24]</SUP> but its low-level speed increased to Mach 0.92 (700 mph, 1,130 km/h).<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-BNA_B-1B_specs_24-0>[25]</SUP> Technically, the current version of the aircraft can exceed its speed restriction, but not without risking potential damage to its structure and air intakes.
You know, Wikipedia is one of the greatest resources on the planet, but it can be occasionally wrong. I still don't see anything about having to rebuild the aforementioned items. Can you link to what you're quoting?

Here's the facts, dude. Low altitude training flights are flown every single day throughout the B-1B fleet at .95 mach down at 500AGL and 1,000AGLl; and that's non-classified. There are provisions and data for flights at 200AGL and speeds WAY beyond that, but crews are no longer required to maintain that proficiency. It's primarily reserved for instructor pilots and WSOs, and aircrews that develop tactics such as weapons school instructors and operational test.
have a cold one on me::icon29:
 
And this is why almost every "my dad is bigger than your dad" thread winds up with a lock on it.

This one is three pages past it's bedtime...
 
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