• Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

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Virtavia freeware page, rut rhoe..

Sbob

SOH-CM-2026
It looks like its gone. :dizzy:
Well, something's there but its defiantly NOT FS-related. :banghead:


Which brings up another question, did Alpha or Virtavia ever release a CH-47 Chinook for FS2004?
 
Dont think so... they did a CH-46 - Sea Knight & a CH53A - Sea Stallion
also...
AS365N Dauphin
H-60 Blackhawk
Ka-27 Helix
a couple of Lynx's
MH-53 Pave Low
Sh-2 Sea Sprite
S-55
UH-1C
Merlin HM.1
Sea King
 
It does look like the Virtavia/Alphasim freeware site has been hacked and that also prevents any means of contacting Phil (the Virtavia owner) as I have sent him two emails to warn him and both have bounced. Does anyone know where Phil hangs out these days (MSFS forums somewhere maybe) so that we can attempt to let him know.
 
The link posted by mav works for me as well, as did a sample download. Maybe we should add all of these files to our own resources library so that they will still be available for posterity ? ? ?

:banghead:
 
Indeed!!
From a Readme (from a zipped file)
COPYRIGHT INFORMATION

These files are a commercial product and should NOT be treated as freeware.
These files may not be copied (other than for backup purposes), transmitted or passed to third parties or altered in any way without the prior permission of the publisher. Any breach of the aforementioned copyright will result in the full force of law being brought to bear on those responsible.

All rights reserved - ALPHA SIMULATIONS 2004
 
We would need Phil's permission to host the files (like we did for GAS) but we need to find him first as any emails to Virtavia Tech Support bounce now!
 
Good evening friends
it is clear and understandable that the site here takes all care not to act against the authors directives.
There is just a think what I have a bit a problem to understand:
The files on the Virtavia FREEWARE site are so declared as freeware
They are free of duty for downloading - on a lot of files it directs you to wayback machine and nothing is possible.
They have been commercial files , you had to pay to get them
but when the owner put them on his own site as freeware does than the protection of a commercial product not fall away beeing no longer in act?
Also a lot of older Alphasim files can be found on simviation and could be found at flightsim.com
Might be I have an understanding problem? I am not a jurist (mein Gott nein) So I ask those who have knowledge in these things just to understand.

Best regards

Michael
 
Copyright is copyright is copyright, Virtavia/Alphasim made the old payware files available as freeware on their own website. That does not mean a third party (either an end user or a forum library) can then take those same files and re-upload them somewhere else. Even though Virtavia/Alphasim has made the files freeware they still retain full rights under the Copyright Acts of numerous countries and only they can give permission for those files to be hosted anywhere else. If a person uploads a freeware aircraft to another site without the express permission of the creator then they are breaking the law plain and simple and if that site then knowingly hosts those freeware files for others to download then they are also breaking the law and could be liable to huge fines.
 
This is from the readme of the Freeware release of the Alphasim B57-B Canberra

COPYRIGHT INFORMATION

These files are freeware. Please amend/distribute as you see fit.

They are unsupported, so please do not e-mail us if you have problems.

Under no circumstances may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site.


All rights reserved - AlphaSim 2008
WWW.ALPHASIM.CO.UK

alphasim1@alphasim.co.uk

and this is from the Alphasim Lysander

COPYRIGHT INFORMATION

These files are freeware. Please amend/distribute as you see fit.

The MDL files must not be back-compiled. This is forbidden under the MicroSoft EULA.

They are unsupported, so please do not e-mail us if you have problems.

Under no circumstances may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site or any kind of illegal warez site.

www.virtavia.com


Don't know if "Please amend/distribute as you see fit." means that we can host them here?
 
We already have a number of Alphasim aircraft in the library.

I'll download everything from Virtavia for safe keeping until a decision is made.
 
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