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A-20 Havoc FSX Native
- Thread starter Milton Shupe
- Start date
blanston12
SOH-CM-2025
Wellis and Milton, thank you very much for all you have done for us.
Can't wait to get my hands on the A-20, it would be great to use this on a leg of my around the world tour.
Can't wait to get my hands on the A-20, it would be great to use this on a leg of my around the world tour.
It's looking highly likely that we will release the FSX Native A-20 Havoc "C" model in beta next week. Lots yet to do with the other models, but all certainly doable.
The FS9 side should see all four models in beta.
The FS9 side should see all four models in beta.
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Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2025
Sounds great, Milton!
Just received the final Little Joe livery for the upcoming beta. Not sure I can get the "G" model native FSX conversion done in time (will try) but it will be part of the FS9 beta release.
This is the FS9 / FSX port over in the screen shot.
EDIT: Added a second screen shot
This is the FS9 / FSX port over in the screen shot.
EDIT: Added a second screen shot
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blanston12
SOH-CM-2025
Great news Milton! Very much looking forward to this!
PhantomTweak
Members +
I really like the art-work on the nose cone. Especially with the guns showing. Seems like the perfect paint for that 
Like all, looking forward to the release!
Pat☺
Like all, looking forward to the release!
Pat☺
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2025
Everything really looks superb, Milton! The night lighting/gauge fluorescents look very natural.
Thank you John; it looks really nice in the FSX sim. Just finished up all the other parts for a little hint of night lighting to round out the cockpit and bombardier's area.
Except for a few minor nigglies that will have to await some xml programming adjustments, the "C" model is ready for a first beta packaging.
But first, must update the FS9 side models with this lighting.
I have uploaded an FSX native A-20C Havoc for some pre-beta testing and trouble-shooting. (There will be a separate package for P3D V4.)
If you want an error-free package, do not download this file.
This is the first of the 4 models to be converted to native FSX (C, G, P-70A1, A2).
Wellis and I have done all we can do at this point and we are awaiting Spokes2112 to return to duty to finish out custom xml programming.
But, if you want to be part of helping to flesh this out and move the project forward, we welcome your feedback.
Due to some programming issues, some things do not work just right, especially with regard to load outs and startups. That's why I call this a "pre-beta" checkout.
Auto-start works fine.
When you load the aircraft, fuel tanks will be OFF. You must select the left and right main tanks before starting. If you are flying and change aircraft, the fuel tanks again will shut off.
The 2D panel and sounds are temporary.
Operational hints are in the docs.
Please post any issue you have here; I may be unaware of your issue.
Thanks for any help.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=107086
If you want an error-free package, do not download this file.
This is the first of the 4 models to be converted to native FSX (C, G, P-70A1, A2).
Wellis and I have done all we can do at this point and we are awaiting Spokes2112 to return to duty to finish out custom xml programming.
But, if you want to be part of helping to flesh this out and move the project forward, we welcome your feedback.
Due to some programming issues, some things do not work just right, especially with regard to load outs and startups. That's why I call this a "pre-beta" checkout.
Auto-start works fine.
When you load the aircraft, fuel tanks will be OFF. You must select the left and right main tanks before starting. If you are flying and change aircraft, the fuel tanks again will shut off.
The 2D panel and sounds are temporary.
Operational hints are in the docs.
Please post any issue you have here; I may be unaware of your issue.
Thanks for any help.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=107086
Bradburger
Charter Member
Many thanks to you and your team Milton.
Cheers
Paul
Cheers
Paul
blanston12
SOH-CM-2025
Thanks Milton! Downloading now!
blanston12
SOH-CM-2025
Do far I have only tried it in p3d so any issues I found are not relevant, it looks great, flys well in v3. One thing you should do is add view points at the bombardier and gunners stations.
I agree; camera views should be added.
I am working to redo the FSXA/P3D versions but it is going to take a while to undo some things and reconfigure others.
Seahawk72s
SOH-CM-2023
I agree; camera views should be added.
I am working to redo the FSXA/P3D versions but it is going to take a while to undo some things and reconfigure others.
See if these help.
Can bomb bay doors show closed in VC...?
Code:
//////////// Camera Views - Exterior ///////////////////////////
[CameraDefinition.0]
Title=Tail
Guid = {DC281D7C-2CEB-4817-90BC-C1F8A67609B3}
Description = Looking forward from the rear of the aircraft
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 1.5, -22.5
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 0
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=FALSE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.1]
Title=Side View (Right Side)
Guid = {334F7F23-8598-4cce-B60A-9F8DF68C029D}
Description = View from the right wing tip looking at the fuselage
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 17.0, 1.5, -3.0
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 270
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect = FALSE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.2]
Title=Side view (Left Side)
Guid = {64F689E0-BDD1-4621-8B9D-1E23DB462A5C}
Description = View from the left wing tip looking at the fuselage
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.50
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -17.0, 1.5, -3.0
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 90
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect = No
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.3]
Title=Oblique (Left Rear)
Guid = {05E7BFD9-4878-43c8-8FDE-0E3284E071CB}
Description =Looking forward over the left wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -7, 2.0, -11.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, 25
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.4]
Title=Oblique (Right Rear)
Guid = {FF5000D9-30BB-472b-B448-483AF2870B7A}
Description =Looking forward over the right wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 7, 2.0, -11.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, -25
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.5]
Title=Oblique - Front Right
Guid = {166A6BC3-4122-4fde-ADC3-A036E5E1969C}
Description =Looking backward over the right wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 7, 2.0, +12.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, -155
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.6]
Title=Oblique - Front Left
Guid = {A1E4662A-50E1-4ee4-AD5C-8DA9A1A91DEA}
Description =Looking backward over the left wing
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = -7, 2.0, +12.0
InitialPbh = 6, 0, -205
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.7]
Title=Pilot/Bombardier View
Guid = {1F7E14CD-8B84-40f9-8184-2D61545F3FD6}
Description =Looking at pilot
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Ordinal
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .8
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 2.0, +9.0
InitialPbh = 22, 0, -180
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
[CameraDefinition.8]
Title=Landing Gear
Guid = {F99DAB49-9935-4a82-8D23-642FA4FB128D}
Description = View of the landing gear and left wing inboard flaps
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .52
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, -1.8, -11
InitialPbh = 0, 0, 0 //was 0, 0, 17
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum
///////// Camera Views - Interior
[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "VC Pilot Seat - Slanted Left"
Guid = {97001c8a-394f-47fd-83f5-193d6fffd533}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.0
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, 0.0
InitialPbh= 30, 0, -25
[CameraDefinition.003]
Title = "VC Pilot Seat - Slanted Left Dwn"
Guid = {c33ba446-2c0b-4994-bb7a-dfb9131b6507}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.71
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, 0.0
InitialPbh= 53, 0, -28
[CameraDefinition.004]
Title = "VC Pilot Seat"
Guid = {09e8f00d-9c90-44b6-92a5-f432ca2986a0}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.32
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, 0.0
InitialPbh= 8, 0, 0
[CameraDefinition.005]
Title = "VC Pilot Seat - Slanted Right"
Guid = {1ad974af-dac8-4f2f-a65c-d0f265be8e1b}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 1.00
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, 0.0
InitialPbh= 34, 0, 30
[CameraDefinition.006]
Title = "VC Pilot Seat - Slanted Right Dwn"
Guid = {9dad42da-1dc6-4a07-8f21-e6b4ada65af6}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.69
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, 0.0
InitialPbh= 50, 0, 40
[CameraDefinition.007]
Title = "VC Bombardier Seat"
Guid = {af92f213-3144-47a5-8620-fee5e8191725}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.60
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, -0.6, 1.00
InitialPbh= 7, 0, 0
[CameraDefinition.008]
Title = "VC Rear Gunner Seat"
Guid = {bd020a92-1c3f-433c-b9bc-8eab87335317}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.30
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, 0.04, -5.0
InitialPbh= 1, 0, 180
[CameraDefinition.010]
Title = "VC Rear Lower Gunner Seat"
Guid = {08d235f8-d287-4ec7-96dd-3859c4daa6f4}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.50
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, -1.10, -5.3
InitialPbh= 1, 0, 180
[CameraDefinition.011]
Title = "Looking Forward - Bomb Bay"
Guid = {d60545a7-7b10-4ac9-8ee3-951421b51021}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.30
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare= FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate= 20
HeadingPanRate = 60
InitialXyz= 0.0, -0.25, -3.9
InitialPbh= 29, 0, 0
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////