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Attention all DC-3 fans !

BendyFlyer said:
Sorry no I don't have the A2A B-17. I have some of their stuff but not that one. If I could add one comment, and it is a hunch based on having flown a number of aircraft who had their genesis before WWII and after was that English aircraft manufacturers had a thing for RED cockpit lighting but the Americans did not and did both red and white.DC-3 or C-47 was not much better but remember you always had additional lighting via the compass, autopilot (sperry), radios and a few other gauges.
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Now that you mention it i have always wondered about the individual knob on the left side of a more or less 'original' DC-3/C-47 Overhead panel that says 'Compass Light' or 'Compass Gyro Light'. It can be seen in many Dakota cockpits, sometimes even modernized ones.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...ll-DC-3-fans-!&p=861370&viewfull=1#post861370

Do you happen to know which compass it is actually referring to ? And why does it have its 'own' light ? ( if other lighting fails pilots could still see where they were going ?.... ) I suppose it's not the Whiskey Compass that usually hangs in between the left/right windscreen, nore the magnetic compass that often sits in the panel next to or underneath the Artificial Horizon ? Could it mean the 'P8 Grid Compass' that can be seen in many vintage aircraft as a seperate entity usually sitting on a tray or pedestal ? :

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This would make the most sense to me but actually i have never seen such a P8 compass in any Dakota cockpit photo.... :)

Red was supposed to assist with overall night vision accuity or something but it turned out to be incorrect and you could see a red lit cockpit at night just as good as a white lit one so it did not hide you either! End of the day it really was about the journey that aviation was on and still on, discovering what worked and what did not! And we all might miss the sound of a round motor but none of us miss a leaky cockpit on a winters night or day either.
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Many moons ago, when i was working on an FS ATR-42 model, i had a sim friend who flew as co-pilot on an AA ATR-42. His first job as co-pilot was on a cargo DC-3 (forgat the company name). He told me that underneath the cockpit seats a fully fledged complimentary raincoat was stowed in case it was needed.... During flight thru rain it was normal that water would come seeping thru the windscreen and side window sills sometimes as worse as that it would make instruments stop working... He said it happend not only once that he was sitting there in his raincoat wondering if they would make it to their destination and come out alive... :icon_eek:

Thanks again for this valuable information, BF ! :encouragement:
 
cavaricooper said:
Jan-I do indeed "remember" Trev, and visit his site often (it being a treasure trove on DC-3 info). Now that you pointed it out, it seems so obvious... A shame that there are none available for you to incorporate in your VVC. There's just something about staying "in-period" I love.)
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Well, the last word has not been said about that, if i can help it... There's an additional problem with the later King KX-170 nav/com radios, they cannot be fitted on the Overhead, much too big deepwise so they need to go on the panel. There's still room but i didn't account for radios inside the panel. This older type would fit perfectly because it's just a little box. ( i would highly appreciate it if someone here could reveal the actual naming of this type ??..... (see photo at the beginning of this topic)).

It's really 'only' a matter of converting the 2D code (presumably available in the FSX SDK modeldef.xml) for use with a 3D instrument. Anyone ??..... :rolleyes:

Visit http://www.douglasdc3.com. A pretty sad story about the Ozark bird :(
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Indeed! Didn't know that, Carl. I really feel for Trev. His love bird sold behind his back for only $80.000... Ashame really.


Alan_A said:
Now I know why that overhead looked familiar - I've been staring at it for the past year or so, ever since I installed the improvised VVC (described farther back in this thread, somewhere in the messages in the 500 series or thereabouts) to tide me over 'til Jan's is done.I guess I was a bit thrown, though - not used to seeing it in three dimensions.
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I have looked several times at this photo too before realising what exactly we see here. I have a hunge it must've been the red and green channel knobs that made the quarter fall eventually. :smile:

Here's a similar setup but with two seperate ADF radios :

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...ll-DC-3-fans-!&p=862859&viewfull=1#post862859

Would be interesting to know what the instrument is that is mounted horizontally underneath the mag switches.... Looks very similar to the ADF radio but *3* ADF radios ??..... An old style ILS gauge can be seen at the far left of the Captain's panel... Maybe it's an early nav/com radio set.... :rolleyes:
 

.An oldie but a goodie, perhaps?...


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...& a real world '47 tossed in for you...


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...as well as the butt end of a good ole' DC-3...


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Glad to see this project breathing, haven't checked for a while. As dad put it, "The lazy man's job: Getting it right the first time so you don't have to do it again."

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Repaint request (Olympic Airways)

A quick hello and Thank You for the wonderful C-47! :applause:

I'm not sure if this is the correct place, but I would like to ask if anyone here who dabbles with repaints can help create a livery for the C47 in Olympic Airways colors.

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Thanks again and keep up the great work!
 

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80 Mighty Years

This year marks the 80th anniversary of the DC-3's maiden flight on 17 Dec. 1935 - which is coincidentally the 112th of the Wright Bros.' first motorised flight. Just remembering.
 
Whilst I am an avid DC-3 aficionado and appreciate all the recent information, could we please re-steer this thread to the original topic- that being Jan's incredible forthcoming VVC... much obliged...

Ta!

Carl
 
cavaricooper said:
Whilst I am an avid DC-3 aficionado and appreciate all the recent information, could we please re-steer this thread to the original topic- that being Jan's incredible forthcoming VVC... much obliged...

Ta!

Carl
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Agreed.

My girlfriend just gave me a wall art of a C-47, I'm as hyped as ever.

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Well, let's make that 'official' then..... :)

I am sorry for being silent for so long, i simply didn't have anything positive to tell after i added the issue about the radios. The implementation of the radios proved to be a major bottleneck. In fact and purely coincidently it happend to be this very day that finally there's a shimmering of light at the end of this bottleneck tunnel.

The bad news is that, for the time being, we'll have to forget about the old style nav/comm radios and that beautiful vintage ADF radio as well. For now we'll have to go with a bit more modern set, i.e. the King KX 170 nav/com and KR85 ADF receiver. The Sperry AP will most probabely also have to wait for later. Very complex to code, sofar i have not found a programmer to take care of that. We may thank Warwick 'Wozza' Carter a lot for helping me out with the coding of the radios.

Atm the radio set is placed at the bottom of the Captains panel (easy accessable because of the removable Yoke) but an option is also to remove the Sperry AP temporarely and place the set there. Suggestions welcome.

This is how the set looks now, don't worry about the digital font, that's just for testing.

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Again sorry for the delay but i can tell you, after all radio tribulations, i was on the verge of putting the default modern Bendix-King set in there and be done with it. :uncomfortableness:

Thank you for your patience, folks.

cheers,
jan
 
Jan , only in the last few weeks have I been , for the fist time watching "Ice Pilots" old Joe Buffalo's boys and girls in the Dak , so I guess having new radios are a :encouragement: from me .
 
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