Monty's C-47 (1948) wip!

[TuFun]

Hoi Jan,



Looks like a FSX (flightsim) shot... (Air France livery)

Marcel

Yes its FSX with MAAM C-47 Air France repainted for the movie "Broken Dreams" documentary. Provided the team with vintage film (FSX) recording and Air France DC-3 artwork for the "Broken Dreams" book.

It was fun working with Suzanne van Leendert!

Also provided the background image for Suzanne.

http://www.brokendreams.eu/documentary/

 

[TuFun]

Me too, Ted. Great isn't it ! Atleast *something* good got out of that horrible mistake !

@ anybody : Check out sequence 1:08 - 1:15. Do you notice anything out of the ordinary in that shot ?

Cheers,
Jan

Yep, reminds me to fire off an email to Suzanne, see what's up!

 

[TuFun]

Booties!!!

 

[cavaricooper]

The second shot is perfection itself.....

C

 

[TuFun]

Looking at some photos the roundel needs to be adjusted, although not in these pics.

 

[mgr]

Hiya,

Looking at some photos the roundel needs to be adjusted, although not in these pics.

Check this one out, by Proplinerman at Flickr. Fear the flags need to be adjusted a little (tiny) bit as well.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48975048@N06/5465124780/sizes/l

Marcel

PS
Another one, sadly in very low resolution:

 

[TuFun]

That maybe different aircraft since Monty's had windows in the cargo doors. He did use about three different aircraft. The link pic is of an early roundel and
the tail markings too.

I just need to move the roundel over more closer to the door hinges. The "K" is different, so that will be changed.

Diffidently need to fix the tail rivets and decals. Also the pictures is at an angle, was using the rivet pattern to measure the decals.

 

[TuFun]

FM Montgomery also use this one (backup) C-47 KN 645. Notice the doors... passenger door on the rear cargo door.

VIP aircraft are kept in excellent condition!

 

[TuFun]

Matching the photo angle...

 

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

YOU'RE KILLING ME (softly).... brilliant mate, looking forward to her.

Ta- C

 

[VesaJuhani]

Allmost perfect masterpiece

TuFun, you are a magician! There is only one tiny detail that sticks to my eyes every time, when I am looking at this magnificent bird.
I apologize every person who accounts me as some kind of "those damned rivet counters" and who wants only find issues from
a perfect work. But I find, there will never be such a work, which could not be even better. And now to the point!
Although this modell is nearly perfect and the BEST freeware by far, there is (in my mind) one detail which is wrong. Sorry if
the word sounds harsh and my intension is not in any way to insult anybody and especially Manfred Jahn, who has created
the external lines of this simulated plane. But, after seen Javis´s latest video (in the location 0:59), I dare to claim that the nose profile is little bit to
convex. More closely, the upper part of the cone starts sloping immediately in the point ahead the windshield. Same thing with the cross-section of the cone, which should have more
rounded upper half especially in the point where the vertical rivet line meets the windshield and naturally ahead. These arguments are easely seen in the video, especially in the b/w-picture taken of the
production line. In other words, the cone should be more pointy. What I have said, might feel hairsplitting, but I allege, that
those mentioned details have a very essential influence for the look of this gem.
I dared to write all this, because the plane deserves it!

 

[VesaJuhani]

Allmost perfect masterpiece

The video I was talking about was submitted by Javis and was concerning the Multi Pilot Simulation´s new DC-3 simulator.
And the mentioned foto can be seen in the location 0:59.
Sorry for the confusion!

 

[TuFun]

Good point, you may want to PM Javis on thoughts about this.

Here's that photo...

 

[TuFun]

Short video of Manfred/Jan DDW C-47 Beta ?

 

[Javis]

Good point, you may want to PM Javis on thoughts about this.

Nah, please don't..... bound to be an endless discussion that leads to nowhere.

@ VesaJuhani :

Is Rembrandt's Nightwatch perfect ?.... Many art historians claim it's not. Is it a masterpiece ? Every art historian will tell you it is. One of the most famous oil paintings in the world. Would it be a sensible idea to try and do away with the claimed imperfections ? Of course not !!

The nose section of an aircraft is usually one of the most difficult objects to model. From my own experience i can say that's especially true for the C-47/DC-3. And in my FS Dakota book i'd say Manfred's rendition of a C-47/DC-3 nose section deserves a master's degree.

That's why i wouldn't even start thinking about going to mess about with it. And i'm about 99% sure Manfred wouldn't either. I mean, why ???....

Maybe, just maybe, another dev will have a go at a C-47/DC-3 model in the near future. I can only wish them the best of luck to try and match the beauty of Manfred's model, let alone try to surpass it.

I mean, just page thru the screenshots Tufun posted above. Can it get any better ?.... I don't think so !

Sorry, VJ, with all due respect but personally i don't think there's anything wrong with the nose section. It's deffinately the one thing that it's supposed to simulate conform the real nose : It's cute !

Cheers,
jan

 

[TuFun]

No doubt Manfred did an awesome job and hasn't this model been around for years. Also I want to thank Gordon Leith of the RAF Museum for details and articles on Monty's C-47.

Also this one rendition of "OKLAHOMA GAL" for Dave at Pacific Dakota Restorations. He is restoring her to fly status and when he gets her painted I can update this rendition.

Many years ago...

No cowl flaps!

Today...

 

[VesaJuhani]

Allmost perfect masterpiece

Javis

Thank you for your comment!
I can completely understand your comprehensive arguments and will happily continue flying with this magnificent creation.
There is only one thing, I must disagree with you and that is: the nose profile is not completely perfect like nothing else
made by a human being! I only wanted to hear, is it possible and reasonable to try to improve it before the final release.
I wish all the best for the project in the future and yourself as well!
For my part the case is closed.

Cheers to you too!
Vesa

 

[Javis]

the nose profile is not completely perfect like nothing else
made by a human being!

Right you are ! And i dare say stuff made by Mother Nature isn't always perfect neither, is it .. I mean, why does she make us loose our hair ? Why does she make us go to the dentist ? Why does she make us fat if we eat carbohydrates ? Why did she create Frans Bauer ? The list is endless...

Perfection what we seek it is not, young padawan, appreciation of the ingenuous integrity of natural and virtual objects and processes it is.

I wish all the best for the project in the future and yourself as well!

Thank you, Vesa.

For my part the case is closed.

Good!

Cheers,
Jan
FOL

 

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[Heukie]

Why did she create Frans Bauer ?