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Different viewpoints Hartwig: the screenshot is taken from the pilot's viewpoint, as if sitting in the left seat; while the black & white photo is taken from the fuselage centreline, a little behind the line of the seats (you can see the pilot's seat top corner in the photo.) Perspective is bound to be different comparing pictures from different positions, heights and distances.
And that's not even considering FSX's slightly weird goldfish views...
And that's not even considering FSX's slightly weird goldfish views...
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Hello gents and ladies. As release nears (soonTM), the team thought, in addition to fumigating your hangars and poring over scrounged reference materials trying to suss out the size of various aircraft parts, you might like to have the chance to RTM. Should give you a better idea about the new features, and a head start on learning her peccadillos.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7983151/Flying the C-47v3.pdf
Not that appetites on this need whetting....
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7983151/Flying the C-47v3.pdf
Not that appetites on this need whetting....
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Hanimichal
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yes there is a little difference
but is insignificant to me, I'll accept also if be as this or similar
but is insignificant to me, I'll accept also if be as this or similar
Again, you can't really tell anything from these pictures at these angles. If you look at the top of the post, you will see, in both pictures, that they are both about the middle of the left-most light switches on the overhead.
I think this silly talk about windows has gone long enough. If you don't like the windows, you need not fly it. I'm pretty sure most people will be quite happy with the simulation. I know that, for me, a model I loved and flew a great deal in the v2 version, has been significantly improved and is a true delight to fly. Serious and genuine thanks go to a rather talented and generous set of developers who kept at this despite numerous obstacles and have produced a truly exceptional model of an iconic aircraft for our hobby.
I think this silly talk about windows has gone long enough. If you don't like the windows, you need not fly it. I'm pretty sure most people will be quite happy with the simulation. I know that, for me, a model I loved and flew a great deal in the v2 version, has been significantly improved and is a true delight to fly. Serious and genuine thanks go to a rather talented and generous set of developers who kept at this despite numerous obstacles and have produced a truly exceptional model of an iconic aircraft for our hobby.
Am excited to fly it!Also looking forward to release - but without the abuse!
Sue, no need for you to get abusive with anyone on this forum surely? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and is it really TOO late to perhaps make any late improvements.
Isn't that what the Beta testing was for? I'm sure Hartwig is as desperate as for it's release as you and I both are. The DC3 is, for Hartwig and I, the ONLY aircraft we normally fly, so we probably know more of it's handling and looks than in fact you do.
If you read the post first instead of shooting from the hip you will see that this gentleman did actually ask if it was a big change then never mind.
Let's stop being premadonnas here and welcome any feedback, both positive and negative. Or are you one of those types on Facebook that feels they have to 'like' everything?
Kudos to this excellent team and glad to see we are almost there with the delivery. It's been a while. lol
Sue, no need for you to get abusive with anyone on this forum surely? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and is it really TOO late to perhaps make any late improvements.
Isn't that what the Beta testing was for? I'm sure Hartwig is as desperate as for it's release as you and I both are. The DC3 is, for Hartwig and I, the ONLY aircraft we normally fly, so we probably know more of it's handling and looks than in fact you do.
If you read the post first instead of shooting from the hip you will see that this gentleman did actually ask if it was a big change then never mind.
Let's stop being premadonnas here and welcome any feedback, both positive and negative. Or are you one of those types on Facebook that feels they have to 'like' everything?
Kudos to this excellent team and glad to see we are almost there with the delivery. It's been a while. lol
billhuntsman
Charter Member
Thanks for the manual. The photos are really helpful. I have had one question for a long time and seeing the new manual reminded me of it. When do the hydraulic pumps get turned on - before or after engine start? This item was not on the previous checklist and it appears that is not on the new one as well. I have also seen it omitted from copies of real DC-3 checklists, though there is sometimes a reference to checking hydraulic pressure. I know it probably doesn't matter in FSX, but I'd like to follow the correct procedure.
Bill
Bill
TuFun
Charter Member
For one this is not a DC3, there is a payware model if you want a DC3. This is a C-47 with no seats... cargo only. Open the door and that's what you'll see.
You want to dress it up as a DC3, that's your prerogative. There's really some fantastic DC3 v.2 repaints that work on v.3. Gordon's paint kit is the one to use if you choose to add more.
Some cockpit shots, and I don't like the gopro shots I see a lot of folks use in their pics and videos.
You want to dress it up as a DC3, that's your prerogative. There's really some fantastic DC3 v.2 repaints that work on v.3. Gordon's paint kit is the one to use if you choose to add more.
Some cockpit shots, and I don't like the gopro shots I see a lot of folks use in their pics and videos.
Hello Bill. As described in Appendix A:
So, the pilot does not turn "on" or "off" the hydraulic system. The pumps work (or should work) whenever the engines are running. One pump provides pressure for the main hydraulic system, and the other for the autopilot.
You can learn more about this from the last page of an actual C-47 manual available here:
ftp://aoptero.org/eArchive/C47-Skytrain/C-47-Skytrain-Manual-web_Part1.pdf
Lovely pics of the VC: thanks for taking some to match the earlier screenshot and photo! I'm afraid that whiskey compass is 0.37mm too high and a sixteenth of an inch too far forward. Kindly ask Jan to start again...
Yossarian1943
SOH-CM-2025
Lovely pics of the VC: thanks for taking some to match the earlier screenshot and photo! I'm afraid that whiskey compass is 0.37mm too high and a sixteenth of an inch too far forward. Kindly ask Jan to start again...
You are right! Three years of development without beta testing! It's a shame.
Gents, please let's not end this thread in a negative way. What if the mods decide to lock it after all these years, éh ? Hartwig just asked something he was worried about, nothing wrong with that if you ask me. Just a little unfortunate now that the model finally is about to be released.
@ Hartwig: i do see your point but it's like Hairyspin says, the photo of the real pit cannot be compared with the screenshot because of the different position ( point of view if you will ). It is also a matter of the fact that we 'sit' inside something that is supposed to be 3D while it still is 2D...
To ease your mind, Hartwig, just about everything inside a real C-47 cockpit has been carefully measured :
Even up until the diameter of the quadrant levers knobs :
(photos by courtesy of Jakob Andreas Nielsen who builds a home DC-3 cockpit)
And i have stuck to these measures as much as possible.
Good chance your worry about the windscreen measures will dissapear once you slide open that small front window and let some fresh air in..
Gents, i'll open a new thread for the release of the "FSX/FSX-SE/P3D Douglas DC-3/C-47 V3 Beta 1.12" as it's officially called now. Watch out for it.
Cheers,
Jan
@ Hartwig: i do see your point but it's like Hairyspin says, the photo of the real pit cannot be compared with the screenshot because of the different position ( point of view if you will ). It is also a matter of the fact that we 'sit' inside something that is supposed to be 3D while it still is 2D...
To ease your mind, Hartwig, just about everything inside a real C-47 cockpit has been carefully measured :
Even up until the diameter of the quadrant levers knobs :
(photos by courtesy of Jakob Andreas Nielsen who builds a home DC-3 cockpit)
And i have stuck to these measures as much as possible.
Good chance your worry about the windscreen measures will dissapear once you slide open that small front window and let some fresh air in..
Gents, i'll open a new thread for the release of the "FSX/FSX-SE/P3D Douglas DC-3/C-47 V3 Beta 1.12" as it's officially called now. Watch out for it.
Cheers,
Jan
TuFun
Charter Member
You are right! Three years of development without beta testing! It's a shame.
No coder, no aircraft functions, no beta testing, . Simple! You can build it, but no coder, no fly. Vaporware!!!
